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The Zimmerman Trial

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Soloprotocol
Whatever Happens, Zimmerman will still have to answer to the big man when HIS time comes..


Then Z should be set free right away, we wouldnt have him to get punished 2 times do we




posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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I think the Judge's recent inquiries about whether or not Z. intends to testify are highly irregular. Commentator's are making a big deal about the lawyer objecting and "you can't object the Judge's questions!". That's not entirely true. Not sure what the procedures are in that jurisdiction, but typically what the lawyer should say would be to ask to note an "exception". Which is a way of injecting into the court transcript that the defense (in this case) is effectively objecting to some action of the court (the Judge's questioning in this case). Typically, these go toward possible mistrial considerations later.

Personally, I think the Judge's line of questioning is prejudicial - since it seems to be an intent to get into the record that the defendant has something to hide. Franking that line of questioning didn't seem impartial. In have never heard this line of questioning come-up in any other trial. In fact, usually the opposite seems to be true ... "do you understand that you do NOT need to testify in your own defense?". It sounded to me like the Judge threw that side of it in also - just to cover her assets.

Not sure what the Judge's goal was with all this, maybe she's planning to run for some other office.

PS: Just for clarity, I personally think Z.'s guilty, but I expect him to be acquitted due to "reasonable doubt". So, I am by no means trying to take Z.'s side.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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The whole exchange between the judge, Zimmerman and lawyer was terrible. He should be able to have his lawyer help with his response. That's his purpose.

Just my opinion though.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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I really dislike this judge.

I just saw this from last night...




posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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Exactly, she's in effect forcing him to indirectly testify - to imply he is afraid to testify or has something to hide. Very "prejudicial" stuff - IMH(f)O.

EDIT: Note, I assume this was done in front of the Jury. If not, then maybe not as big a deal.
edit on 2013-7-10 by EnhancedInterrogator because: Clarification



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by AlexG141989

Originally posted by Soloprotocol
Whatever Happens, Zimmerman will still have to answer to the big man when HIS time comes..


Which one? Zeus, Poseidon, Hercules? Odin? Thor?

Who?

Allah...who else..??



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:24 PM
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He doesn't need to have been itching to kill someone for him to do so when he knows a live witness is going to ruin him, and a dead one means one less witness. I've never claimed he left his house planning to shoot someone. I'm sure his visualisation of his ideal encounter with a low-life was more along the lines of him holding onto a subservient suspect until the first cop turned up, and them giving each other a high five.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:26 PM
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When I worked at a local courthouse a while back, several of the staff used to have a little saying:

Lawyers are people who THINK they have power.
Judges are (just) lawyers who ACTUALLY have power.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:27 PM
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Biased much?

Subservant suspect? What does that mean ?



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:30 PM
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So to prove more validity in Zimmerman's claims is the fact that at any point in time there could have been a witness or the police could have showed up. For all he knew the police could have showed up right as the shot was fired. He had no actions like a criminal would have had. He has had faith in his testimony this entire time. This has just been a smear campain agains gun owners and people who have used them in self defence.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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This witness is owning the prosecution's line of questioning. He hasn't tripped him up yet, try as he might.
edit on Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:36:25 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by MDDoxs
When does deliberation occur?

Defense will probably rest this afternoon. Closing arguments Thursday.
THen deliberations until they come in with a verdict.
That's what it looks like right now ....



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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He is looking like an idiot now, with the wrist contortion lmao. Possible, not probable, how many times does he have to say it?
edit on Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:41:29 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by MDDoxs
When does deliberation occur?

Defense will probably rest this afternoon. Closing arguments Thursday.
THen deliberations until they come in with a verdict.
That's what it looks like right now ....

Then Fire and Brimstone on Friday....



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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I just figured out who this prosecutor fella reminds me of ..

www.youtube.com...

Ned Ryerson from Groundhogs Day.


Same irritating personality.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Soloprotocol
Then Fire and Brimstone on Friday....

I figure they'll deliberate through the weekend if they need to.
As for fire and brimstone ... I expect some unrest.
At least the race baiters have backed off their rhetoric for now.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:43 PM
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I love this guys testimony.


"anything is possible but is it plausible" lol

This trial is a prime example of a prosecutor only wanting to win and not caring about the truth.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Is there a limit to how many cross and recross there can be? I have never seen this many before in a trial.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
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I thought most people frowned upon blaming the victim these days?


Who is the victim? Was the victim GZ when he was attacked by TM? That is a facile argument.


And wow...I really do not like that Judge.
edit on 10-7-2013 by bbracken677 because: added judge remark



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Mannequin Becomes Key Witness In Zimmerman Trial


George Zimmerman's lawyer literally flipped a prosecution witness -- a gray, foam dummy -- to re-enact the defense's version of the confrontation that ended in the death of Trayvon Martin, straddling the mannequin and bashing its head against the floor as stunned jurors looked on Wednesday....

O'Mara straddled the dummy on the floor in front of the witness stand, grabbed it by the shoulders and drove its head into the floor repeatedly.

"Would the injuries on Mr. Zimmerman, the back of his head, be consistent with someone doing this on cement?" asked O'Mara as he slammed the flopping mannequin's head into the floor



Excellent article. I especially liked how they said that the defense 'flipped' the mannequin from being the prosecution witness to being a defense witness. The defense has been 'flipping' witness' this whole time.




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