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Yes im sure the stated policy for spending points does say this,
There are no refunds.
Use of devicive speech to express one's opinions does accomplish something....it show that poster may be ignorant of the issues, shows that bigotry exists, and ultimatly shows that that persons post is essentially trash. Respect is EARNED not given, and is hard to mandate. If you are a troll and you post crap, your posts will get NO RESPECT, and it deserves to be trashed (verbally debunked/slapped) by other posters as well as moderators.
There is nothing wrong with having a strong opinion on something, however, expressing that opinion in the form of insults directed toward other members, their cultures, ethinicities or nationalities accomplishes nothing more than driving threads off topic and fostering an atmosphere of mutual disrespect.
NO it doesnt....it might make things a little more challenging,but communications can certantly continue. When im participating in a thread, and a few posters are only slinging one liners, or posting really devicive stuff....i just skip responding to them (unless they really deserve a verbal slap) Why does this end my meaningful discussions with other posters involved? It seems like banning speech for your convienance of not having to read a few dumb posts is a really POOR excuse for infringing upon open, honest, and expressive communications, weather you deem them productive, insensitive, bigoted, or not.
In such a climate, meaningful discussion becomes impossible
No they arent going away DESPITE board ops making it SEEM like they are by banning/restricting peoples expressions....this is a whitewash of reality...Yes they might leave ATS behind, but did those ideas vanish, nope, only from our too sensative to tolorate eyes. We blind ourselves by enacting communication divisions.
there will be people who are 'enflamed'. Most of these people are that way because they prefer or choose to be anyway. They're not going away.
Which political content should be intolorable? Which group of political thinking is next for censorship? Which ways of expression are next on the chopping block? I personally find those that have made creative pictures and graphics very talented and amusing, but some of them, avatars included are devicive...SO WHAT. I mention this because these graphics can be just as "bad" as just saying it would be. Yet creative pictures are mostly considered artistic forms of expresion. This speech ban should also then apply to "political cartoons/satire" as well.
I'm somewhat disappointed that the people here are so tolerant of this political content
i know, i know i know already...this is a private board, and i respect that this community has the RIGHT to set boundaries for itself that define it. (sound like a familliar argument from me on other topics?)
Just because a person is passionate about politics (or religion, ethics, whatever) does not given them the right to just go on a rant and flame whoever they want however they want.
I fear that name calling and contrived derision is the crux of most arguments, those tools removed, the ability to articulate any meaningful dissent is removed.
Keep in mind that the core mission of ATS is not the debate of political ideologies, just as it was not general chit-chat. When membership expressed a desire for more and more general chit-chat, BTS was born to give such discussion a better place to live than a conspiracy board. Given the current political atmosphere, a new "PTS" board is long overdue, as well as decided upon by senior staff and board ownership. This site is, after all, a private venture, not a public service.
Originally posted by CazMedia Do you hear that hissing sound? Thats the sound of the energy being sucked out of the now split forums.
Yes, correct, we certainly do not want posts that attack people. Depending on the severity of the attack, moderators tend to want to give gentle nudges than hard warnings.
lets talk about ethics for a moment. the idea that "we don't need that type of post here."
We said it before, we'll say it again (and again, and again apparently) -- your "freedom of speech" is not guaranteed here. All to often, our members mistake exactly what is the concept of "freedom of speech" and attempt to apply their own interpretation to a privately owned entity. This site is privately owned, and our staff has been selected by the owner, or trustees of the owner, to promote free and open discussion within the boundaries of the standards defined by our terms and conditions and follow-up policy discussions such as this.
when it refers to a freedom of speech issue, or open and honest forms of communication, (even non intelligent) it seems most are willing to encourage the stiffiling of this liberty.
I don't understand what you feel is being censored? (and again, just as you appear to misunderstand freedom of speech, you seem to misapply the concept of censorship here)
Which group of political thinking is next for censorship?