NEF on ATS Live to Atheists: Shut Up and Go Away!

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posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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Yes, the Live shows and the ATS Live Radio shows are required to be T&C friendly.




posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
A way to let your hair down and not have to worry about respecting your fellow members or show hosts?


Oh spare me. Most bitching here are not even listeners. Just butt hurt atheists with an ax to grind. Or those that would jump on any thread that bashed the site or staff.





You don't see me whining.


No, it just appears that way.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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So animals are evil? Because they often eat their own offspring.
I guess that something is wrong with that kind of vocabulary,still I believe we are living in a civilized world.

Where humans are certainly separated by the animal kingdom by reason.


Or not.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:15 PM
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Oh spare me. Most bitching here are not even listeners. Just butt hurt atheists with an ax to grind. Or those that would jump on any thread that bashed the site or staff.


Neither of which applies to me. If I feel I have been mistreated or misunderstood, I do make an effort to correct it or draw attention to it. No bashing or grinding involved. I have a point to make, I make it, I listen for any response, and then I move on or reply.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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Where humans are certainly separated by the animal kingdom by reason.


I have yet to see a dog commit genocide over religious differences. Perhaps higher reasoning doesn't always mean higher wisdom. Perhaps it just means we have a greater capacity for convincing ourselves that we are wise.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:20 PM
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I thought so. I mean, I dunno...I'm just wondering about a few things here because this thing with the athiests was comparatively razor-edged when you're looking at the pyramids and aliens discussion.
edit on 11-6-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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I want to clarify something as well for everyone crying over the T&C. Nef never addressed a single member. He did not say, "Hey ATS member xxxxxx, your stupid now shut up and go away." He did say( paraphrasing ), "Hey fundamental, militant Atheists, shut up and go away." How is that different than lets say discussions on the WBC here on ATS? Plenty of people say I wish these people would shut up and go away and those posts are not removed. The first would be against the T&C, the second is not.


What happened to "civility and decorum"? Especially as a radio show host you have to maintain a level of professionality. I don't think telling your opponents to shut up and bugger off is indicative of such a level.

But since this behavior is considered ok, I will say,

"Shut up you mods and bugger off!"

What?

I didn't single out a specific mod!



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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Neither of which applies to me. If I feel I have been mistreated or misunderstood, I do make an effort to correct it or draw attention to it. No bashing or grinding involved. I have a point to make, I make it, I listen for any response, and then I move on or reply.


Seems that you did implicate yourself some what here.



Just a lot of imprecations against the atheists. We have a thousand years or more of loud mouthing to catch up to, so what's the big deal? We can't emulate the Christians? What's wrong with that? Can't handle competition?



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
But seriously, I can't tell if we're being trolled or moderators really don't care what the show does while on the air.


I'm curious as to why people that don't listen to the show(you're exempt) have a frickin opinion in the first place. Who is trolling who? As to the T&C we are still waiting on Admin to fill us in on this. WE DON'T KNOW!



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Opinions are based on the info shared in the OP.

Listening to the radio show is not required to have a "friggin" opinion.

How's the "not whining" going along?



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Perhaps higher reasoning doesn't always mean higher wisdom. Perhaps it just means we have a greater capacity for convincing ourselves that we are wise.
I guess it is not good when life is teaching and convincing us all those things stated above.

Because then we might begin to believe in something.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:28 PM
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I guess if you consider yourself a fundamentalist, militant Atheist, then you would take offence to it but it wasn't directed at ATS members in particular.

As for the other remark, a couple of questions.

Are the mods members? Did the comments relate directly to ATS members or where they directed at the group who want to put up this monument?




posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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I don't think they really even specified any particular group of atheists. They just said "atheists". Their description directly preceding the comment described all atheists. I didn't hear any specifications. None at all. They mentioned the American Atheists and then starting talking to everyone who was atheist. I quoted it, virtually word for word. No specifications. Just atheists.

If it were whites, Mexicans, Jews, hermaphrodites, cripples, or turtles, I would be saying the same thing.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by sheepslayer247
 


I thought so. I mean, I dunno...I'm just wondering about a few things here because this thing with the athiests was comparatively razor-edged when you're looking at the pyramids and aliens discussion.
edit on 11-6-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)


Perhaps the segment did walk a fine line...and may have let a couple toes cross over.

I know that I have crossed the line many times and I am still allowed to be a member....so I do not have a problem giving them the same benefit they have given me, and many others on this site.

No one is perfect and I think we have unreasonable expectations for the mods to be super-human or something. They are just like the rest of us.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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I have yet to see a dog commit genocide over religious differences
Hmm then you don't know the inventivity of the suicidal bombing acts in Irak that use to happen.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:32 PM
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How's the "not whining" going along?


Sounds like you might be a little extra butt hurt at that remark.

Pss... Let it go, we're beyond that now.

Some atheists wouldn't last one hour as a Christian. Oh wait...



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
But seriously, I can't tell if we're being trolled or moderators really don't care what the show does while on the air.


I'm curious as to why people that don't listen to the show(you're exempt) have a frickin opinion in the first place. Who is trolling who? As to the T&C we are still waiting on Admin to fill us in on this. WE DON'T KNOW!

I've been told by a mod associated with ATS Live that shows are required to stick to T&C, which makes sense.

That said, I don't think that anything Nef or the other ATS Live crew said violated T&C -- saying "Shut up and go away" is not particularly offensive, and I've heard similar things said about completely different topics on the show (I used to get a laugh out of Nef's "Don't be so stoooopid" comment regarding Niburu 21 December 2012 doom porn proclaimers.)



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:34 PM
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We were discussing the group wanting to put up this monument yes? The discussion was this group that wants to place the monument yes?

Should we say each time we start a comment or a dialogue to which particular group the comments are addressed to? That would get kinda of tedious and ruin the flow of conversation.



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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If it were whites, Mexicans, Jews, hermaphrodites, cripples, or turtles, I would be saying the same thing.
Hmm,interesting sequence of names.

I'd clearly see here racism.





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