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my question is how do humans fit into the equation. The gods seem to be fighting so much amongst themselves theyve forgotten us or at the very least neglected OUR ideaform manefested (afterall they created us).
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by vethumanbeing
my question is how do humans fit into the equation. The gods seem to be fighting so much amongst themselves theyve forgotten us or at the very least neglected OUR ideaform manefested (afterall they created us).
I get this question a lot when I talk with people who aren't familiar with Paganism, or polytheistic mythology and spirituality. The simplest answer is this: the deities didn't forget about us, we abandoned them.
When the Jews introduced their concept of a monotheistic All-Father, YHVH, slowly man began to move away from psycho-spiritual polytheism as found in Mesopotamia, Egypt, and the Ugaritic mythologies. The polytheistic ways were replaced with a singular force who controlled everything.
My belief is that this was done out of laziness. Instead of seeking to understand reality as a series of interconnected elements, the Jews simply decided to say everything was one thing, and that thing was God the Father. As Judaism spread, and eventually turned into Christianity via Roman Catholicism the records of ancient, more human-involved deities was buried, outlawed, burned, or otherwise corrupted.
So, the Anunna and the Neteru never abandoned us. We abandoned them. Why do you think modern revivalism, like Kemetic Revivalism, Druidism and Celtic Revivalism, Norse-Asatru, and Wicca are such popular alternative to Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Baha'i, Sufism, and Sikhism? The archetypal sources which Pagan deities represent are still alive and well within people. It is the people, who have become dependent on an exoteric "God" instead of esoteric relationships with god-forms, that has caused the schism between pagan ideology and human beings.~ Wandering Scribe
One way to put is is that the "lazy factor rings true" with a One God Father theory no mussmush fuss, we relinquish all control to one being (our FRATER) and in BOVINE tradition leave it all up to IT to manage our lives as be then become model sheep.
This percieved 'father' of ours cares nothing for the mother
why are not the pagan gods in rebellion right now; where is the leadership in a combined strength to overthrow the weak corrupt ideaform? Or has it happened already.
you're not going back far enough. see bat
It is possible that Hathor and Bat were once one and the same, and that differences emerged because the area was divided into two different Nomes.
Cow goddess of fertility. Egyptian (upper). She was probably well known in the Old Kingdom (circa 2700 BC onward). Associated principally with Upper Egypt, for a while she may have rivaled Hathor in Lower Egypt but by the time of the New Kingdom (16th century BC) her influence had waned. She may be represented on the Narmer Palette (Cairo Museum), which commemorates the unification of the two kingdoms. Bat is only rarely found in large sculptures and paintings, but is often the subject of Egyptian period jewelry, including amulets and ritual sistrum rattles. Depicted as a cow or anthropomorphically with bovine ears and horns. Also Bata.
pg. 40
HATHOR
Origin: Egyptian. Mother goddess and goddess of love.
Known period of worship: from the Old Kingdom (circa 2700 BC), but possibly earlier, until the end of Egyptian history (circa 400 AD)
pg. 97
The problem with the feminine in the pagan world, from the small right up to the whole Queen of Heaven subterfuge is that its whole flow is to ultimately rise up out of its element in the face of the Almighty in a form of rebellion.
She is no better than Thor with his pretentions of being the ultimate he male protector warrior guy that seduced Germany in recent years to a know result.
vethumanbeing[/iOne way to put is is that the "lazy factor rings true" with a One God Father theory no mussmush fuss, we relinquish all control to one being (our FRATER) and in BOVINE tradition leave it all up to IT to manage our lives as be then become model sheep.
wandering scribe
I think the children of Abraham are lazy because their religion removes any attempt at actually understanding themselves, or the world around them. Replacing such human curiosities with blind subservience to an out-dated All-Father. If you think that makes them fat, lazy cows, I've no problem with that. YHVH fears the Mother. It isn't something as simple as "not caring". If He merely "didn't care" then He would ignore, and make no mention of, femininity. But, because he removed his feminine half (Ašerah), made women property (Judaism), then subject to their husbands (Christianity), and finally totally subservient lesser humans (Islam), it is clear that He so fears them that forceful oppression is the only way He knows to minimize their power.
wandering scribe
Consider all of the avenues in life where pagan deities are studied, analyzed, worshiped, lived with, and welcomed: comparative mythology and religion including the works of Joseph Campbell and Edith Hamilton; the field of Jungian psychology; schools of psycho-spiritual synthesis like the Golden Dawn, Thelema, The Theosophical Society, and the Aurumn Solis; revivalist religions like the Pan-Celtic Druids, Neo Kemetic polytheism, and Wicca. My belief is that a single follower who studies pagan spirituality and comes to better understand both the deities, and himself, is worth more than 100 children of Abraham who do not think for themselves, or try to understand the God they believe is ruling everything.~ Wandering Scribe
From within the egg lifted a brightly coloured model of the solar system which revolved around a mirror-ball sun. ...
We hold the inkling of your fate
We cloak the heavens of the great
We bring Wealth and Majesty
To the Queen of the Stars
Maharani,
Maharani,
Maharani,
Queen
Maharani , Malka, Kraljica, Regina
Maharani Wazungu, La Reine
Maharani Loywong, Dama, Soberana
Queen Sul-tan, Dronn-ing
Stars above, Earth below
We make a chain, We make a chain of hope.
Stars above, Earth below
We are connected ,We are joined, We are one,
We are connected, We are bound, We are
bound by light
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9.....
Then count us one by one 13-14-15-16-17-..
21-22-23-24.
Then count us one by one 37-38-39-40....49
Then count us all
Then count us one by one
Fifty million light years,
Fifty million light years...
Of stars...
Originally posted by Unity_99
Lyra spread out, to Rigel, to Sirius, to Pleaides, to Procyon.
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by Logarock
The problem with the feminine in the pagan world, from the small right up to the whole Queen of Heaven subterfuge is that its whole flow is to ultimately rise up out of its element in the face of the Almighty in a form of rebellion.
Incorrect.
The transcendent feminine is above and beyond the immanent masculine. There is no Almighty. There is only a balanced weave between an esoteric Great Mother, and an exoteric All-Father. As long as the balance remains, then peace rules. When one side, or the other, acquires too much power, then things devolve into madness and corruption.
Well if the transcendent feminine is above and beyond the immanent masculine, or anything, then how can there be balance? Well in this case there is none. Just an almighty feminine.
At any rate a balance is never what Yah wanted. When the Israelites sought a sort of "balance" by erecting the image of the Queen Of Heaven in the temple courtyard it was a clear affront....placing the queen, the feminine, a created nature, on par with the creator, it amounted to worshiping the creation more than the creator and caused spiritual corruption and madness.
The noumenon /ˈnuːmɨnɒn/ is a posited object or event that is known (if at all) without the use of the senses.[1] The term is generally used in contrast with, or in relation to "phenomenon", which refers to anything that appears to, or is an object of, the senses. In Ancient philosophy, the noumenal realm was equated with the world of ideas known to the philosophical mind, in contrast to the phenomenal realm, which was equated with the world of sensory reality, known to the uneducated mind.
Noumenon
Nyx (Ancient Greek: Νύξ, "night") – Nox in Latin translation – is the Greek goddess (or personification) of the night. A shadowy figure, Nyx stood at or near the beginning of creation, and was the mother of other personified gods such as Hypnos (Sleep) and Thánatos (Death). Her appearances in mythology are sparse, but reveal her as a figure of exceptional power and beauty. She is found in the shadows of the world and only ever seen in glimpses.
Nyx