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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:43 PM
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This is what is coming to the shores of America. They are already painting the right wing in the US as the troublemaker when they are trying to keep our basic freedoms. The IRS...Benghazi...DHS lies...Eric Holder prosecuting himself.... and the current admin letting it happen. A President who studied Islam. His closest adviser born in Iran. Does no one see the problems here...Wake up AMerica...

In the UK, it is worse and in its final stages...

The EDL are blasted as racist, and the ones causing all the problems. Watch this video and tell me, is it the silent protesters of the EDL or those of the UAF and British Muslims who are bringing the jihad.

Link to video

BE a voice and do NOT stay silent.

and if you think our government is not Pro Islam, there are people out of work and starving in America and they do this with no approval...

Link
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:52 PM
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Christians vs Muslims.... again!!!


this is such a crazy science experiment

can anyone identify the catalyst???

heres a clue...

it starts the reaction...as well as speeding it up
just before the reaction
it disappears without a trace

then turns up once the dust has settled, cleans up, and becomes... the richest group of people on the earth
generation after generation


what is the catalyst????

heres some maths:

(Muslim + Christian)
Jews


just saying i saw the videos of rabbis supporting the EDL in its creation
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 06:07 PM
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Catalyst? Well..I'm just spit balling here...but I think seeing an off-duty soldier get his head cut clean off on a major avenue, in broad daylight and then hear the murderers claim pride in the action as a form of fighting for Islam might have had a little to do with it.
No Jews this time. Gotta look at the much simpler reasoning for the immediacy of the problem, I believe.

I'm actually quite happy to have seen a 'majority' as it's described, within the Muslim community condemn the street actions and the more recent ones with a seeming pack of roving hoodlums out pulling more mischief in the name of their religion. It's refreshing to see Muslims calling out Muslims for their evil and wrongdoing for a change. Perhaps progress is made. Perhaps not...but it's a nice change from the old paradigm of "us vs. them" with no room on either side for intelligence or level headed thinking.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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Catalyst? Well..I'm just spit balling here...but I think seeing an off-duty soldier get his head cut clean off on a major avenue, in broad daylight and then hear the murderers claim pride in the action as a form of fighting for Islam might have had a little to do with it.
No Jews this time. Gotta look at the much simpler reasoning for the immediacy of the problem, I believe.


cool

i was talking about the inception of the edl....when i mentioned jews

and that dude probably knew the soldier...and had a history with him

please do remember - they havent been interviewed yet

if i saw a guy killing someone and saying " oh lord, oh jesus".. i wouldnt call him a christian fanatic.
just someone using religion in adversary



I'm actually quite happy to have seen a 'majority' as it's described, within the Muslim community condemn the street actions and the more recent ones with a seeming pack of roving hoodlums out pulling more mischief in the name of their religion.


ALL muslims do

what you see are young confused "victims" who have absorbed some older c£$% BS



It's refreshing to see Muslims calling out Muslims for their evil and wrongdoing for a change.
Perhaps progress is made. Perhaps not...


ironey, cliches and confusion all in one scentance


the "evil" and "wrongdoing" is not a religion thing
its more of a tribal thing... with the religion being highlighted as the cause

new age central governance against old tribal orders.... its not islam or christianity that is the cause...but the corruption



but it's a nice change from the old paradigm of "us vs. them" with no room on either side for intelligence or level headed thinking.


the EDL dont see that muslims agree with them

they are both...nationalistic
against privatisation and bankers

too add...muslims here are mostly on assylum....ie temporary



all im saying is....there is a wedge between east and west

and people are sleepwalking into nazi ideology....

just rying to help here.... our age is too beautiful to jeoparfise...

EDL need to stop waving the isreali flag
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 06:36 PM
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From what I understand in having read a great deal from what our British members have posted in the past about the EDL, they seem to represent one side's extreme while the head choppers who commit murder in the street represent the other extreme.

Both extremes are downright unhealthy for any society and can't much be tolerated, IMO. Especially when the Muslim community is openly, personally, coming out to condemn the actions of the few.

The way I look at it is simple. There are 1.3 Billion Muslims on Earth. If that religion were evil, inherently violent as it's practiced today or somehow against the West as a universal tenet? This would have been a MUCH shorter war ...and we'd have lost it. 300 million Americans has us outnumbered by 1 Billion pissed off Muslims ....had that actually been the reality of it.

Just my thoughts.


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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 06:42 PM
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In the UK, it is worse and in its final stages...


What are you tapping about.. What is in its final stages... You get extremists in all walks of society.. and EDL are just that a bunch of racist baboons... The Muslim population in the UK is about 3% I do not think they are going to take over the country.....



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 06:44 PM
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One in 10 people under 25 in the UK is now Muslim and in the past 10 years it has doubled..Wanna recheck that math?


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The EDL are not racist baboons. This link was about a peaceful silent march.
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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From what I understand in having read a great deal from what our British members have posted in the past about the EDL, they seem to represent one side's extreme while the head choppers who commit murder in the street represent the other extreme.



dude.. the "head choppers" is serious BS... its a problem for secret services and state protection agencies

not an oppurtunity for morons to justify their ignorance



Both extremes are downright unhealthy for any society and can't much be tolerated, IMO. Especially when the Muslim community is openly, personally, coming out to condemn the actions of the few.


they are not parrallels or opposites

murder is murder.... full stop



The way I look at it is simple. There are 1.3 Billion Muslims on Earth. If that religion were evil, inherently violent as it's practiced today or somehow against the West as a universal tenet? This would have been a MUCH shorter war ...and we'd have lost it.


so theres a war against muslims?
i thouhgt it was against tribes caught up in the post-WW2 border creations by the west?



300 million Americans has us outnumbered by 1 Billion pissed off Muslims ....had that actually been the reality of it.

Just my thoughts.


sunni muslims are not allowed to get "pissed off"
which is why the west has been getting away with what it has

its the shia countries that get pissed off and chase their enemy across the world
ie afghanistan, iran, pakistan

but as i said.. its an arab and afirican tribal thing..not religious

someones bred this religous angle
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:16 PM
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Just looks like a continuation of the crusades.


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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:24 PM
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The same EDL who have:

* Been caught numerous times giving fascist / nazi salutes and making racist gestures.
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www.unitedstatesaction.com...


* Been caught and arrested for inciting terrorism and racial abuse
______beforeitsnews/alternative/2013/05/poll-edl-incites-terrorism-in-britain-2663266.html


* Arrested many members for violent assaults of innocent members of the public
liveraf.wordpress.com...


* Supported and cheered the mass murderer Anders Breivik
www.guardian.co.uk...


* Some members suggested burning buildings down
www.theargus.co.uk...


* Smashed up public houses in many cities across the UK

www.edlnews.co.uk...

twitter.com...

* Attacked police officers

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Cry me a river. The EDL are nothing but a bunch of disjointed thugs, idiots and clueless, small minded xenophobes and racists.

THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE PERSON IN BRITAIN.

My Grandfather fought the Nazi's, he would be horrified to know that this level of right-wing thuggery has reached our shores. When the EDL give nazi salutes and then claim to be defending the UK, you know something is wrong.

Thugs, fools, idiots, football hooligans, mindless cretins and horrifyingly illiterate (see their facebook page) wastrels.

I cannot stress enough how these people do NOT represent the English. Shame on them all.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:33 PM
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Really? lol

There is plenty of racist troublemakers in the EDL who go out of their way looking for trouble.

I am not saying that there isnt bigots on all sides but you cant make it out that all the EDL are all peace loving folk
that's laughable.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:42 PM
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and that dude probably knew the soldier...and had a history with him


What exactly do you mean by that statement?



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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Don't expect much sympathy when it comes to the EDL. Most people on ATS claim to deny ignorance on subjects, however in reality they welcome it with an open arm. Especially if it has to do with Islam and anyone (or anything) standing up to Islam in Europe. On that subject, they decide that the best course of action is to embrace ignorance in favor of keeping a rose tinted view of the social problems brought to Europe by Islam.

Also, I've noticed several interesting things: Typically when a so called "hate group" has a peaceful rally it's the guys that are supposedly "peaceful" who are fighting, making death threats and the like. But again, people will claim otherwise simply because they love those rose tinted glasses too much.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:52 PM
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We'll agree to disagree as we're talking about this from positions too far apart to really get anywhere, IMO. Worlds apart. Especially for this thread and it's topic.

I am curious about the question Argyll asks. I'd thought to ask it myself but figure that's part of what we're worlds apart from seeing close enough to even debate on.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:54 PM
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It's not about ignorance. It's absolutely not about embracing radical Islam. It's about not judging Islam as a WHOLE group as badly as the radicals among them judge us as a WHOLE group. I don't much appreciate it when the Jihadis do it to my side so I try to be careful in not returning the favor against the 99% of Islam who have nothing to do with waging this war.

Just my two cents.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:55 PM
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See I cannot comment decisively,because I DON'T KNOW the facts just what I have read in media.I do know now what a "Traveller" is because of my daughter living there.But read me in Englanders whats the deal here?
I will say that cutting a vets head off on a public street is way over the top and here would illicit hate crimes against all muslims ,indians and swarthy people. A bit sad that but they'll do it.
So what are your thoughts?



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Argyll
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and that dude probably knew the soldier...and had a history with him


What exactly do you mean by that statement?


dude werent in uniform

just a random dude... i dunno if they saw him comming out of the barracks

but the police havent said a word.... this is all journalism

which is why im trying to keep a open mind untill i see what the police report.

the terrorism angle could only be a fraction for the motive.

yes,no?



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 08:14 PM
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They should have just loaded them on a bus and deported them. Don't give me no crap on how they can't go back to their country either. I got a place for them it's a Island where these tribes live and would be taken care of proper.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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dude werent in uniform just a random dude... i dunno if they saw him comming out of the barracks but the police havent said a word.... this is all journalism which is why im trying to keep a open mind untill i see what the police report.
the terrorism angle could only be a fraction for the motive. yes,no?


Hmm....he was outside the army barracks when the attack happened.....he was wearing a "Help For Hero's" sweat shirt....the vile scum that murdered him spoke on camera explaining what he had done......to whom....... and why.

Good luck with keeping that "open mind"



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by Argyll
Hmm....he was outside the army barracks when the attack happened.....he was wearing a "Help For Hero's" sweat shirt....the vile scum that murdered him spoke on camera explaining what he had done......to whom....... and why.


i agree

but yor ruling everything out other than terrorism...

terrorism would mean they never met before....





 
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