reply to post by dougie6665
These comments are not meant to be personal to anyone on this forum. Rather, they are an expression of a different view point based on logic
rather than reliance on ancient and ambiguous texts that other than identifying some historical figures, have never been a reliable predictor of world
events as they purport to be or as true believe purport them to be.
believing in God is based on logic not divine books. this is a big mistake of people who think that they believe in God according to Bible or Koran.
this is a big mistake. I respect Christianity, but those who read some
Gospels in order to believe in God, then they may conclude that Jesus is God ! by this word they are oppressing their wisdom. monotheism is purely
Or at least not a God that demands obedience of a race on a small planet that is a pinpoint in a massive universe.
all the universe is obeying God, gravity is a law of God ! do not get me wrong. your questions are questions of many people, me and even those who
call themselves religious. my answer is, I need to obey him ! this is what I know. but knowledge is different from implementing. submission to God. I
know it is an odd word. even for those who are living in societies full of religious thoughts. but is not love some sort of slavery ! I do believe in
the true love and I feel it is some kind of freedom. as this poet says :
“Openly I admit, with much joy and such glee;
Enslaved to your love, from both worlds I am free.
As a bird of Paradise, to parting I did agree
Fell in the trap of life and worldly tragedy.
I was an angel; I resided in the heavens;
Renovation of the world – the mission given to me.
The nymphs of paradise, the cool ponds and the tree
In the hope of union, swiftly left my memory.
On the tablet of my heart, inscribed from a to z
It is all about you. I can’t see other than thee.
No soothsayer foretold of my exit or entry
O Lord, this journey, why did you for me decree?
I am but a slave of the Tavern of Love
Each moment, a new pain becomes my new remedy.
If my bleeding heart pours out of my tearful eyes
It’s just, I deserve; why to others I make my plea?
Wipe away Hafez’s tears with your hands so he can see
Or else, this flood brings all of us to our knee.” -Hafez
there are and were people who were and are lovers !
Let me put it this way to you, in Christianity, Romans 3:25: "unto eternal life through Jesus Christ. is the basic tenant of Christianity. It
is logical to all Christians that believing in Jesus is the path to eternal life and all others are damned to burn in hell.
yes some Jews think that non_Jews are in hell, the same is true about Christians and Muslims. but we know that God is the most merciful and justest so
even if it is written in divine books this is about a logical law !
any claim can be wrong or right. if someone knows that a claim is definitely right and he is ignoring the truth and insisting on wrong, he deserves
punishment, does not him ! such punishments are for corrupted leaders, those who know the truth but mislead people. if God wanted to kill non_muslims
or non_Christians, he could do it far more better than humanity !!! divine books are not enough.
I can not perceive how can those who call themselves religion researcher, ignore the vivid path of monotheism through out history. they want to mix
monotheism and Superstitions, they behave like corrupted clerics.
1: God exists
because something can not be created by nothing !
order can not be created by disorder !! it needs someone in order to guide it to order.
2: God is one
God is the ultimate of all goodnesses. the most merciful, the most compassionate,..... unless there is no reason that I worship him ! is it possible
that we have many ultimates !!
moreover we choose only one president in election not many ! is not God the wisest. so how can such great order have many leaders. many Gods !
3: last day should exist, unless where we should seek the ultimate justice !
these were just some of my thoughts, I would be glad that you debunk them, then I can think more !!!
finally, I suggest that you read this debate, deny ignorance please, just pay attention to the logic.