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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 01:54 AM
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I consider the quote below to be a wrong translation by the author as to the meaning of Anunnaki and is also incorrectly written.


Anunnaki (“Those who from heaven to Earth came”) -Zecharia Sitchin, The End of Days, 2006


an = high

nun-na= prince or lord, majesty, noble

an-ki = heaven, earth, the universe.

AN.NUN-NA.AN-KI means; high majestic universe; lord = dingir: god, deity; determinative for divine beings as the language representive of crucial astronomical observations of the observable universe to mark their history.

Zecharia has not understood the complexities of the cuniform transliterations. Thusly his entire theory is proven to be wrong and no such unearthly beings exist. Most of his writings can be considered as fantasy.




posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 02:14 AM
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I enjoyed reading the definition of the word Anunnaki, but can you show me HOW you based your theory that his translations are to be dismissed as pure fantasy? Can you show me 100% irrefutable proof? Can you show me where i can find a TRUE translation of the cuneiform tablets he deciphered?
The burden of proof DOES lie upon you, since you posted the theory.
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 02:23 AM
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How could it be proven false? Its from mythology.


Anunnaki (Chaldean) In Babylonian mythology, a hierarchy of lower angels: the angels of earth or the underworld, star gods who had sunk below the horizon and become judges of the dead. Below the anunnaki were several classes of genii -- sadu, vadukku, ekimu, gallu -- some of which were represented as being good, some evil. The anunnaki are "terrestrial Elementals also" (TG 25).
In Sumerian mythology, the children and followers of An, judges of the dead.

another translation



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 02:25 AM
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So they cant be proven true OR false, correct?



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by intrptr
 


So they cant be proven true OR false, correct?


They can not be proven false in the same way the magical Zindelwinches that exist only in the 23rd dimension and hail from the galaxy Sewetophyx. Believing in one is just as logical as the other though.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
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So they cant be proven true OR false, correct?

Thats the beauty of myths and legends. I was addressing the OP:


Thusly his entire theory is proven to be wrong and no such unearthly beings exist. Most of his writings can be considered as fantasy.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 02:43 AM
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They can not be proven false in the same way the magical Zindelwinches that exist only in the 23rd dimension and hail from the galaxy Sewetophyx. Believing in one is just as logical as the other though.

Awww, now you just made them up. Thats not fair. A myth has historical precedence...



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
Can you show me 100% irrefutable proof?

WHY even ask for proof when it is so obvious that fraud has taken place?

Do you also need 100% irrefutable proof to see that things such as 9/11 and JFK are not what they appear to be?

Learn to think the opposite direction of propaganda.

You don't need proof.

You need to realize you are being fed lies.

Only THEN will you begin to see that you have all the proof you need.

Sitchin WAS an Illuminati puppet and disinformation agent.

Most people don’t have a CLUE about how deep this game is being played…


I have long regarded the fact that the late Mr. Sitchen maintained offices in Rockefeller Center with a great deal of suspicion, and have, I must be frank, also entertained his sudden popularity and publications has perhaps being deliberately promoted by a financial elite, a kind of disinformation operation, and as any disinformation specialist will acknowledge, to be effective, the operation must contain elements of truth. Link

Independent researchers conclude Sitchin's translations a fraud

Independent researchers Michael Heiser, PhD and Jonathan Grey also found Mr. Sitchin's translations and story of the planet Nibiru to be fraudulent and a fabrication. Even more damning is that the "Ancient Sumerian Texts" that Zecharia says support all of his claims DON'T EVEN EXIST!!!" Sitchin as an intelligence operative for the Global Elite

Sumerian text! HERE IT COMES… There are NO SUCH texts. Not anywhere! Did you get that? In the entire cuneiform record there is not one single text that says any of these things. These texts do not exist. They are all made up! None of these things existed except in Mr Sitchin’s head..." Sitchin fiction

It's pretty clear Sitchin was a psy' op' he was groomed at the London School of Economics even the curators at the Istanbul museum sold him the 'spaceship' because they knew it was a forgery.? Why do you talk of 'reptilians' when it's Sitchinite fiction? This unfounded unproven babble about off world fantastic nonsense sounds like it's straight out the Stanford or Esalen Institute. Prof' Michael Coe was a CIA agent who invented/promoted the 2012 meme. Keep your feet on the ground or get played... Sitchin was a CIA PSYOP

Now, about that Sumerian Enki document. You have to admit, arguments using ancient clay tablets do, at first, sound scholastic. Even credible. However, in the writings of Sitchin and others, there is not the slightest indication that they understand what they are dealing with.

They appear to be honest but unaware of the sinister forces behind this theory. But sadly, in the process, they are unintentionally leading their students and others astray. The bottom line is this. The weight of evidence suggests that the ancient Sumerian Enki document is a fictious work posing as fact. Sitchin has fallen into the trap of believing it.

SITCHIN FICTION

“Frankly, the Sumerian text about the Anunnaki was a work of fiction. And due to its clever mixing of some truth with the error, it has been mistaken as fact by some modern writers.

Ancient documents inspired by the Lucifer Legion So it was that, after the Flood, these same deceivers came to the Sumerians in typical disguise as ancient astronauts and in saucers. This is the source of the Sumerian tablet The Epic of Creation in which, may I say with respect, Zecharia Sitchin places his trust, when he speaks of Enki and his astronauts splashing down in the Persian Gulf. Don’t be disappointed if this document turns out to be a farce. How utterly foreign and opposite it is from the account in the Intelligence Report!


Arguments using the Bible and ancient clay tablets may sound very convincing and seem credible. But – it needs to be pointed out - Sitchin’s use of the Bible to support his findings, is, with respect, flawed. Simply, much of what he uses as proof of the visits of extraterrestrials from ancient writings disagrees with that same Bible. The Intelligence Report makes it clear that the story found in those Sumerian tablets emanated from Lucifer himself, hiding his true identity through lies and deceit.

Aliens The Deadly Secret - Jonathan Gray



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
 


They can not be proven false in the same way the magical Zindelwinches that exist only in the 23rd dimension and hail from the galaxy Sewetophyx. Believing in one is just as logical as the other though.

Awww, now you just made them up. Thats not fair. A myth has historical precedence...


And in 500 years so will the Zindelwinches. If anything the length of time with zero evidence to support Annunaki make the Zindelwinches a better bet for being true.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 03:48 AM
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Even if so and Sitchin's findings are disinfo (although you are right - the game is being played deep so no one knows if it is as you post or the false explanations to be the lie itself - like present someone as fraud or disrespect him to hide a truth), then how do you explain the existing clues of either some more advanced machines, creatures, technology that have nothing to do with Sitchin? As in Sitchin didn't make up all that is being discovered about the ancient people (and more that has to be discovered), did he?

So are you saying that the whole idea of Ancient Astronaut Theory is a lie - when I tell you, the facts and clues come from themselves, not because Sitchin made them up, or are you just talking about the Annunaki and Nibiru.

Provided that the above is false, then why? Why make a whole bunch of stories, is this some super important military technology that one has to make such an endless amount of texts to cover? There is no evidence of this being the case (creating the whole aliens topic just to hide some technology or agenda).

Or even if we're talking about the Annunaki as a lie and not the whole topic, again - why? What's the purpose?
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 03:56 AM
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problem with that approach is it doesn't take into account the actual anunnaki themselves, talking to and interacting with humans. it just takes the word, isolates it, and then tries to ignore the rest of the cuneiform texts on the subject.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by ImpactoR
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Even if so and Sitchin's findings are disinfo (although you are right - the game is being played deep so no one knows if it is as you post or the false explanations to be the lie itself - like present someone as fraud or disrespect him to hide a truth), then how do you explain the existing clues of either some more advanced machines, creatures, technology that have nothing to do with Sitchin? As in Sitchin didn't make up all that is being discovered about the ancient people (and more that has to be discovered), did he?

So are you saying that the whole idea of Ancient Astronaut Theory is a lie - when I tell you, the facts and clues come from themselves, not because Sitchin made them up, or are you just talking about the Annunaki and Nibiru.

Provided that the above is false, then why? Why make a whole bunch of stories, is this some super important military technology that one has to make such an endless amount of texts to cover? There is no evidence of this being the case (creating the whole aliens topic just to hide some technology or agenda).

Or even if we're talking about the Annunaki as a lie and not the whole topic, again - why? What's the purpose?
edit on 9-6-2013 by ImpactoR because: (no reason given)


There is no advanced ancient technology that has ever been discovered. There are no facts that speak for themselves. Every bit of ancient astronaut theory is a lie, and has been proven to be so many times.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by undo
problem with that approach is it doesn't take into account the actual anunnaki themselves, talking to and interacting with humans. it just takes the word, isolates it, and then tries to ignore the rest of the cuneiform texts on the subject.


There are no actual Annunaki, so them interacting with people is very difficult to take into consideration.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by undo
problem with that approach is it doesn't take into account the actual anunnaki themselves, talking to and interacting with humans. it just takes the word, isolates it, and then tries to ignore the rest of the cuneiform texts on the subject.


There are no actual Annunaki, so them interacting with people is very difficult to take into consideration.


your argument is not related to the one that op is providing. yours is a different thing altogether. the op stipulates that the translation of anunnaki indicates it's referring to the universe not actual rulers/kings/pharoahs/gods/etc. but that's like taking the word encyclopedia, breaking it down into separate parts, picking the meaning of each word to suit your understanding and then ignoring the rest of the contents of the encyclopedia.
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
 


They can not be proven false in the same way the magical Zindelwinches that exist only in the 23rd dimension and hail from the galaxy Sewetophyx. Believing in one is just as logical as the other though.

Awww, now you just made them up. Thats not fair. A myth has historical precedence...


We shall have to wait 1000 years in order for this to become mythology, and then use the technology we invent at that time to come back to this time and reveal the truth of this claim!




posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:13 AM
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to expand a little on what Murgatroid's offered,

Or even if we're talking about the Annunaki as a lie and not the whole topic, again - why? What's the purpose?

it's about *linking* science and religion.
it's about "the space brothers"
it's about the "new-age" movement.
it's about a coming messiah.
it's about the new world order.



Most people don’t have a CLUE about how deep this game is being played…

..a little jigsaw puzzle

..If you're following Sitchin's work you must know of Jordan Maxwell, who was a conduit for Sitchin. everyone's seen the grainy footage of Sitchin a la freemason, Not everyone knows Jordan Maxwell had a hand in *creating* David Icke (reptile guy) intending to market him in Amerika but they had a tiff. Maxwell will also have us believe he inherited all of Manly Palmer Hall's research material..



this one caught my eye

There is no advanced ancient technology that has ever been discovered.

yes there is.. plenty.. (by definition of what you've just said)
ANTIKYTHERA MECHANISM


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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:24 AM
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Everyone has an agenda.

Christians, including those mentioned as behind debunking Sitchin have a religious mythology themselves they would prefer to be correct, as do many other religious groups.

Of COURSE his information is and always was going to be attacked simply because of competing and diametric belief issues..this is obvious.

If people who follow any kind of organised religion were not attacking and chipping away at Sitchin's credibility, they are having a go at each others.

Same old, same old here i'm afraid.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:42 AM
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look, this is only true if you believe in nothing, if there are no absolutes, no morals, no values, no meaning and purpose.. no "God"

you're saying side A (christians) debunk side B (sitchin) and on it goes ad infinitum.. (so there's no truth.. nothing means anything, both camps just life... "evolution" .."do as thou will" and all that, right?)

..what if side A was truth to begin with?
..what if side B was essentially part of the parallel propaganda story?

..ask yourself, why do those in side B camp >constantly< try to undermine jesus and christianity?
even if you want to think the bible is lies.. you can *understand* what it stands for (if you study it)

ask yourself, why "the system" (those of the side B camp) constantly attack what those christian values stand for?



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Every bit of ancient astronaut theory is a lie, and has been proven to be so many times.

Most can't handle the fact that the History Channel is actually the "Propaganda Channel".

An excellent documentary on the ancient alien phenomena (Ancient Aliens Debunked) exposes all of the lies behind this fraud.


Ancient Aliens Debunked is a 3 hour refutation of the theories proposed on the History Channel series Ancient Aliens. It is essentially a point by point critique of the "ancient astronaut theory" which has been proposed by people like Erich von Däniken and Zecharia Sitchin as well as many others.

The film covers topics like: Ancient building sites: Puma Punku, The Pyramids, Baalbek, Incan sites, And Easter Island. Ancient artifacts: Pacal's rocket, the Nazca lines, the Tolima "fighter jets", the Egyptian "light bulb", Ufo's in ancient art, and the crystal skulls. Ancient text issues: Ezekiel's wheel, Ancient nuclear warfare, Vimana's, the Anunnaki, and the Nephilim.

Make sure you go to its parent website, where there is more video and lots of source documentation.

It was produced by Chris White and includes commentary from Dr. Michael Hesier.

Chris White has produced one of the most important video productions dealing with the Ancient Alien Phenomena With the added scholarly research from Michael Heiser this documentary is epic in its scope – answering just about every ”Alien” claim made on the Ancient Aliens television show, one of the most popular programs on television which is falsely spreading a “Psuedu Gospel” with the help of a complicit media, imagine folks seeing a show on “The History Chanel”? surely the History Chanel has done their homework and verified at least some of this shows claims? You will realize that it’s not just our national news media that has become lazy. Our History Channel seems to be rewriting history as well.

The Ancient Aliens show and its prime benefactor Giorgio Tsoukalos has one goal in mind. To Debunk the Judeo Christian world view and replace it with an age old story, A story the most beautiful of created angels used to temp earths first inhabitants. A psuedo gospel that will possibly sway even the “elect” with a future disclosure. When you hear for yourself so many Lies, disinformation and the twisting of the “truth” coming right from the mouth of Tsoukalos – one realized why Christ called Satan the “Father of Lies”. His followers on earth just can’t help but repeat them…..

www.supernaturalresearch.com...



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
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I enjoyed reading the definition of the word Anunnaki, but can you show me HOW you based your theory that his translations are to be dismissed as pure fantasy? Can you show me 100% irrefutable proof? Can you show me where i can find a TRUE translation of the cuneiform tablets he deciphered?
The burden of proof DOES lie upon you, since you posted the theory.
edit on 6/9/2013 by HomerinNC because: (no reason given)


The sources I have been using have been:

A Sumerian Reading Book, C.J Gadd, 1924, Internet archive

A History of Babylonia and Assyria Volume 1, Robert William Rogers, 1900, Project Guntenberg

Wiki-Dingir

Sumerian Grammer, Dietz Otto, 2003, google books

UNDERSTANDING PLANETS IN ANCIENT MESOPOTAMIA, Enn Kasak, Raul Veede, 2001, Electronic Journal of Folklore Vol16, Vol16

Sumerian Lexicon Version 3.0, John A. Halloran, Version 3



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