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Originally posted by Bassago
Originally posted by Maluhia
Pinocchio wouldn't have even been noticed in a crowd of these guys.
Did Clapper lie to Congress?
Testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Clapper denied allegations by panel members the NSA conducted electronic surveillance of Americans on U.S. soil.
“Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?” committee member Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) asked Clapper during the March 12 hearing
In response, Clapper replied quickly: “No, sir.”
“There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect [intelligence on Americans], but not wittingly,” the U.S. intelligence chief told Wyden and the rest of the committee. That said, “particularly in the case of NSA and CIA, there are structures against tracking American citizens in the United States for foreign intelligence purposes,” Clapper added.
hotair.com...edit on 9-6-2013 by Maluhia because: (no reason given)
It seems part of the problem here is we are getting a whole bunch of what I call "the Clinton defense" or what the meaning of "is is." Half these jerks are lawyers and the other half are surrounded by lawyers. They'll go to their graves lying and obfuscating, maybe even believing their own BS. Not sure if there is ever going to be an admittance of wrong from any of the criminals.
OT Heard that after the Bolshevik revolution the first thing the Russians did was shoot all the lawyers. Anyone know if that is just an urban legend?
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by Silcone Synapse
Data mining had long started when the first web page was sent. Internet providers and the historical Alta Vista search engine were such tools of data mining, and those who got on the bandwagon or used it services had long profited from it - such as yahoo and facebook and the china search engine Baidu.
It is only a matter of alogarithms.
As to the govt benefitting from something that private enterprises had LONG benefitted, there is NO conclusive evidence of such or corruptions. As there are no evidences, your point is only speculative and NOT FACTS.
Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Does it not give an unfair advantage to those with the data in terms of business knowledge-think if you spied on some company and made profits from the knowledge-would you not be locked up for industrial espionage?
Originally posted by Rocker2013
reply to post by burntheships
This is the final straw that all Americans should be sitting up and paying attention to.
Recent reports by The Guardian, The Washington Post, and The Wall Street Journal revealed a global secret surveillance initiative by the Obama administration and the NSA far beyond the scope of what was first warned about during the George W. Bush administration by The New York Times.
The Week then went on to report that the NSA is feeding off of information from at least 50 companies.
The Obama administration and various members of Congress in favor of the surveillance regime have spent the time since The Guardian’s initial story defending the program’s legality.
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper even declassified select bits of information about the program in an attempt to ease public concerns raised by the reports, as well as denouncing alleged inaccuracies. The DNI made public a fact sheet [pdf] on data collection.
During sworn testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee March 12, Clapper, averting his eyes and rubbing his head, denied that the NSA was collecting data on millions of Americans.
Originally posted by darkbake
Okay everyone this is getting bad. Punish the whistleblower... okay... well... they are blowing the whistle on major issues. We are obviously already in a police state where we are all being monitored,
and the Department of Homeland Security has the manpower to take out dissidents, and anyone involved in politics can't do anything about it because they could lose their career or be punished.
This is all known now.