In the past time, I´ve read a book named The Montauk Project by Preston B. Nichols and Peter Moon..Its about a Air Force Base named "Fort Hero"..they used it to do test with "time machines" and also has a connection to the Philadelphia Project..

It is on Long Island - New York - Montauk Point- to any New Yorker have anybody been there? Is there really a base or something like that? can anybody affirm this story?

I've heard alot about this. Although they did experiment on time travel they also experimented on mind control. They took something like 50,000 kids off the street as "volunters". The leader of the project was Dr. John Von Nuemann who was also the leader of the Philadelphia Experiment. The time travel experiments that your talking about couldn't go past 2012 I think it was because there was a "wall" they couldn't pass. I also heard a creature came through and ate people and equipment. The project was funded by Nazi gold that was being transported in a train that crashed and was uncovered some years later.

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yeah, i´ve read this in the book...the interview isn´t online anymore..when in 2012 is a "barrier"..whats that mean, end of the world..This book is a factual report (seeming)..

2012 is when the age of aquarius starts. Scientists claim theres a ton of energy coming towards us that will envelop the earth then. Most ppl feel it will help the earth go to a higher frequency.

I was talking about higher frequency as in the 4th dimension.

too bad the age of aquarius wont start until another 30,000 years (thats when the north pole will be pointing to aquaius not polaris) besides even enstien and hawking both say time travel is impossible unless if your going light speed (if you consider the effects of speed and time actual time travel) and it is impossible for us to go light speed, if we did we would be transformed into pure energy which would most likely kill us. And besides wasnt the philidephia project disproved on the history channel?

oh and by the way those who say the warp travel threoy thing disproves me it dosent, even in warp you would still be traveling in sub light speeds.

By the way i have heard some interviews with the people who claim to have be apart of montauk i forget there names, but they are the ones that everyone knows. Anywho, in one interview they claim to have gone to some year like 2512, so your 2012 thing you heard are wrong.
I clearly remeber one guy saying that when he got to that time there was floating cities helded up by anti-gravity pads that would literally float the city from place to place. Anyway thought i would let u guys know....
I wish there was more talk about montuak on here rather than the same old boring NWO babble.

I'v visited there and it is a deactivated military facilitie and is part of the montaulk point lighthouse property(state park i think?) .

also the objectives for the project were supposedly mind-control( by using the radar dish as a device to project emotions on a certaint freq.) ,weather control, and time/space travel. I dont know weather the time and space travel was physical of if it was ment to use the radar equipment to enhance remote veiwing.

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Originally posted by rowsdower
too bad the age of aquarius wont start until another 30,000 years (thats when the north pole will be pointing to aquaius not polaris) besides even enstien and hawking both say time travel is impossible unless if your going light speed (if you consider the effects of speed and time actual time travel) and it is impossible for us to go light speed, if we did we would be transformed into pure energy which would most likely kill us. And besides wasnt the philidephia project disproved on the history channel?

Well one to go faster than ligth speed is...by resonating to a specific frequency...

What mean is that everything or place or space or location has their frequency...if I were to create a machine to could achive such feat...

Example:
A = 3.5 Hz and B = 3.0 Hz

If I wanted to go to point B (in no time)...I would reduce A's frequency by 0.5 Hz...Now Iam in B's frequency...As a results instant transmission

there was a wall in 2012 for the time travel?

Well, the mayan calendar ALSO ends on the year 2012, they believe by using various signs in the stars, etc, that that is the end of our world...

Many people believe 2012 is the end of the world, so if the "Tribulation" of the antichrist lasts 7 years as the bible says it does, guess when it STARTS...yup this year 2005....

Hmmmm....interesting they used the year 2012 for the STOP year of time travel...wow....the tribulation MAY begin this year...the rapture MAY be this year...interesting...

here is a link to an article why the Mayans end their calendar on the year 2012...interesting...this year pops up alot for the END year...

I don't think its really 'the end' for everyone. It's more likely just to be the end of a old way of thinking...

Well there may be lots of myths about this year and lots of other years ... but claiming that John Von Neumann worked with 10,000 children brainwashing them into time travel?! That's the most ludricrous thing I've heard yet anywhere on this site or elsewhere. Von Neumann was a brilliant scientist who also worked at Princeton's Advanced Institute (Einstein's old office).

Al Bielock(SP?) is the guy to web search about both projects. He can even shed light on Tesla's demize. Bielock(sp?) say's he was there and I found his writings and one vdeo address astounding.

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