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Oh is that what you believe it is.....a radio transmission?
Originally posted by WonderBoi
Oh is that what you believe it is.....a radio transmission?
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
reply to post by WonderBoi
Frequencies of sound / particulate matter and frequencies of energy are rather different things.
Are you trying to claim that ELF (extremely low frequency, in the radio sense) are capable of moving matter significantly enough, and with precision enough to cause weather events?
The gaseous expulsion I just emitted probably has more atmospheric motive force than a 1 megawatt radio transmissionedit on 8-6-2013 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)Turn up the bass, and see what waves can do. Turn it up high enough, and watch things move. So, yeah, waves can move matter; even if those waves are from an ocean.
Extremely low frequency (ELF) waves are electromagnetic radiation
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by Phage
Whether they be sound or not, doesn't matter. Not when dealing with frequencies. I hope the classification of those frequencies hasn't confused you, in their capabilities.And they talk about what "radio frequencies" can do. You can't see them, but you certainly can feel them.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by WonderBoi
Oh is that what you believe it is.....a radio transmission?
You think HAARP transmits sound waves?
That's interesting. Why do you think that?
edit on 6/8/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WonderBoi
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by WonderBoi
Oh is that what you believe it is.....a radio transmission?
You think HAARP transmits sound waves?
That's interesting. Why do you think that?
edit on 6/8/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Sound is a sequence of waves of pressure that propagates through compressible media such as air or water. (Sound can propagate through solids as well, but there are additional modes of propagation). Sound that is perceptible by humans has frequencies from about 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz. In air at standard temperature and pressure, the corresponding wavelengths of sound waves range from 17 m to 17 mm. During propagation, waves can be reflected, refracted, or attenuated by the medium.
Extremely low frequency (ELF) is a term used to describe radiation frequencies from 3 to 30 Hz. In atmosphere science, an alternative definition is usually given, from 3 Hz to 3 kHz.[1][2] In the relatedmagnetosphere science, the lower frequency electromagnetic oscillations (pulsations occurring below ~3 Hz) are considered to lie in the ULF range, which is thus also defined differently from the ITU Radio Bands.
Ultra-low frequency (ULF) is the frequency range of electromagnetic waves between 300 hertz and 3 kilohertz. In magnetosphere science and seismology, alternative definitions are usually given, including ranges from 1 mHz to 100 Hz,[1] 1 mHz to 1 Hz,[2] 10 mHz to 10 Hz.[3] Frequencies above 3 Hz in atmosphere science are usually assigned to the ELF range.
I hope that helps your confusion.
It doesn't matter what type of frequencies they are. If sound waves can make things move, i'm pretty sure ELF and ULF waves can do the same. Sound waves are only a classification of what range of frequency sound resides in; which AGAIN is 20-20,000 hz You seem to think those inaudible invisible waves have absolutely no affect. You also must believe that those frequencies can't cause things to vibrate and move. This is where the debunkers are HIGHLY mistaken.
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by Phage
Whether they be sound or not, doesn't matter. Not when dealing with frequencies. I hope the classification of those frequencies hasn't confused you, in their capabilities.And they talk about what "radio frequencies" can do. You can't see them, but you certainly can feel them.
A terrible example for your own argument. This is SOUND waves - ie - regular concussive pulses of air emanating from a moving speaker. They have a concussive and overloading effect on the human auditory system due to their amplitude.
This has nothing to do with any form of radio transmission from any form of antennae regardless of energy output of frequency involved
you can feel radio waves? must be a painful world with all the radio, tv, wifi, cellphone transmissions around. Tell me, what do TV transmission feel like?edit on 8-6-2013 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WonderBoi
]It doesn't matter what type of frequencies they are. If sound waves can make things move, i'm pretty sure ELF and ULF waves can do the same. Sound waves are only a classification of what range of frequency sound resides in; which AGAIN is 20-20,000 hz You seem to think those inaudible invisible waves have absolutely no affect. You also must believe that those frequencies can't cause things to vibrate and move. This is where the debunkers are HIGHLY mistaken.
Originally posted by whatzshaken
The atmosphere is a chaotic system, so small changes to one part of the system can grow to have large effects on the system as a whole. Human attempts to control the weather have occurred throughout human history, and there is evidence that human activity such as agriculture and industry has inadvertently modified weather patterns.
Just by heating up the ionosphere alone will indirectly effect the jet stream, no matter how insignificant they say it does, because the Earth's atmosphere is combined of Troposphere, Stratosphere, Mesosphere, Thermosphere, Exosphere...
Originally posted by whatzshaken
reply to post by Phage
What do you want me to say, "one hand washes the other?"
Please, do not be apologetic towards me, about what you can not see.
Nothing short of the GOVT admitting that this is what it is used for will prove to skeptics of exactly what they are capable of getting away with.
We all are the ones standing on the other side of a screen door with a fist full of # that has been thrown in our faces, but # will always stick to something. So connect the dots...
And apparently, you didn't take time to watch the video, which explained how.
This part is worthy of mentioning again.
The question remains, however, of just how it is exactly that a microwave oven derives the heat necessary to cook food in such a short period of time. When microwaves are introduced into the microwave oven they penetrate the food on a molecular level. On that very small level, the microwaves cause the water molecules within the food to vibrate rapidly. This vibration causes friction, which results in the generation of heat energy. This is how microwave ovens use microwaves to cook food. Read more: How Does a Microwave Work? | eHow www.ehow.com...
On that very small level, the microwaves cause the water molecules within the food to vibrate rapidly. This vibration causes friction, which results in the generation of heat energy.
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by whatzshaken
Speaking about that which you cannot see. Let's take a look at how a Microwave Oven works; since sound isn't their thing.This part is worthy of mentioning again.
The question remains, however, of just how it is exactly that a microwave oven derives the heat necessary to cook food in such a short period of time. When microwaves are introduced into the microwave oven they penetrate the food on a molecular level. On that very small level, the microwaves cause the water molecules within the food to vibrate rapidly. This vibration causes friction, which results in the generation of heat energy. This is how microwave ovens use microwaves to cook food. Read more: How Does a Microwave Work? | eHow www.ehow.com...
On that very small level, the microwaves cause the water molecules within the food to vibrate rapidly. This vibration causes friction, which results in the generation of heat energy.
Nothing short of the GOVT admitting that this is what it is used for will prove to skeptics of exactly what they are capable of getting away with.
This is where the debunkers are HIGHLY mistaken.
However, chaos theory doesn't allow me to pee in the Gulf and cause giant water tentacles to emerge from the Thames, grab people on the Vauxhall bridge and bat their brains out on the pilings. At least it hasn't yet.
You can't summon up chaos theory as a boogeyman by which some small effect has some huge, complex, predictable intended effect elsewhere - the very nature of chaos theory precludes the prediction and accurate results of such manipulation - they are essentially random.
Chaos theory is applied in many scientific disciplines, including: geology, mathematics, microbiology, biology, computer science, economics,[56][57][58] engineering,[59] finance,[60][61] algorithmic trading,[62][63][64] meteorology, philosophy, physics, politics, population dynamics,[65] psychology, and robotics.