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And if they still don't believe you, tell them to search up the Boston Marathon and see how the FBI admitted that they were running facial recognition searches against the federal passport, visa, and states drivers license databases.
Originally posted by pirhanna
reply to post by DeadSeraph
I've talked about it with real-life (non internet) people the last 2 days. The reactions ranged from trying to make fun of me by saying that I'm predicting they are going to put trackers in my d*** to pretending I didn't say anything, to anything else that could get them to not talk about what is actually happening. Its unbelievable how far people will go to avoid TALKING about it.
Does anyone else find this to be disconcerting?
Originally posted by Elostone
What can we do?
We could all unplug.
Personally, I have been thinking about just getting a pre-paid phone that doesn't require personal info. Do all my Internet surfing etc at a public place that has wifi.
I've already closed bank accts and only pay with cash, though it seems big bro is attempting to make that difficult to impossible in some cases.
Work under the table if possible...
Stop using store membership saver cards unless they're in a bogus name.
There are ways to avoid giving personal info out there, you just need to be pro active and creative.
People are too lazy, too dependent on the machine these days to walk away from it.
And THEY (TPTB) know it.
JMHO of courseedit on 7-6-2013 by Elostone because: (no reason given)
The thing is, I know my internet usage is pretty much no different for most of the population. So they aint gonna find much of interest with me or 80-90 percent of everyone else. So their monitoring the entire population is a waste of time. Thats the first point.
Originally posted by Bluesma
reply to post by DeadSeraph
Oh I guess I can't resist reacting to such overt provocation. Public insults and all- who could resist bringing forth an equally exaggerated counter argument?
Actually, I don't feel you've put up enough argument behind your position to contend with. I'd need something besides "you're just daft if you are not against this". It's to easy to counter with "You must be a criminal if you're against it."
The issue of privacy on the net always makes me wonder if, when people started to gather together into grouped dwellings, forming villages, there was controversy over the problem that walking around in that village meant ANYONE might see your face, might be able to ask around and know your identity and background, might see your daily activities......?
If so, the answer was probably as simple as it is now- if you don't want to be seen and known, don't live in or walk around in, a village or city. Or in this case- don't use the internet. Stay out of that cyber-community.
I am not doing anything illegal, and am not really against those that are, being caught, in general.edit on 7-6-2013 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DeadSeraph
... Which brings me to my next question:
WHY aren't more people up in arms about this? You would think people would be ranting about this all over the front page of ATS?
Is it possible that the complacency and apathy we see in the average citizen over such issues is in fact a result of some of the indoctrination we've been through? Are they putting something in the water to pacify people? I just don't understand why people don't care?