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Gunman opens fire at California community college, several injured, police say

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posted on Jun, 7 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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Ahh, yeah... that picture.
One problem with that image, firstly is that we don't know for a fact - said body on the ground was actually, responsible for the shootings and the house fire at [xxxx] (supposedly connected)

I might be wrong but wasn't the perp killed in the school by the police, according to reports?
How did the (dead?) body ultimately end up on the sidewalk assuming it did? Was it moved?

If you can get past that line of thought:
A different article at this news link here looks to be the same individual at the same spot. Now is that belt white, instead of the other one that looks black? Am I seeing things here?

Too much ADD?
(attention to detail disorder)




posted on Jun, 7 2013 @ 09:55 PM
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Who cares? What's next?


 
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posted on Jun, 7 2013 @ 10:45 PM
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The gunman was killed by cops in the library, police say:

www.nbclosangeles.com...
The gunman had attempted to evade pursuing officers, exchanging gunfire with them. He entered the library, accosting several students in the college library and trying to shoot at them, Seabrooks said. Police shot and killed the gunman inside the library, she(Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks) said.

www.scpr.org...
Police said that at least six people are dead in a shooting rampage that began at a house in Santa Monica.... and ended with a shootout in the library of Santa Monica College, where police shot and killed a gunman dressed in black clothing and a ballistic vest.

Yet the pics show a dead gunman on the sidewalk outside.  The police have an explanation:

www.scpr.org...
In the library of Santa Monica College: Campus police and Santa Monica police exchange fire with the suspect. He dies in the library; they move his body to sidewalk.

Hmmmm....  Now why would they drag the suspect outside? And take off his shoes?

Apparently the shooting was quite extensive:

www.scpr.org...
"I saw one person down, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, shattered glass, blood all down the stairs in the front of Santa Monica College library," said Santa Monica College sophomore Brett Holzhauer.



posted on Jun, 7 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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Strange thing is the people who lived at the house seem to have the last name Zawahri.
I wonder if this is a person targeting what he thinks is Muslim terrorist?

And they had a FCC Registered Amateur Radio Licenses for the house?

Call Sign: N6KXL, Licensee ID: L01016630
Grant Date: 05/13/2005, Expiration Date: 06/07/2015
Registrant: Samir S Zawahri, 2036 Yorkshire Ave, Santa Monica, CA 90404


www.city-data.com...
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 12:03 AM
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Thanks for including the sources and updating the other information. You guys are awesome and I owe you a lot! Thanks again.



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by telemetry
reply to post by starviego
 


Ahh, yeah... that picture.
One problem with that image, firstly is that we don't know for a fact - said body on the ground was actually, responsible for the shootings and the house fire at [xxxx] (supposedly connected)

I might be wrong but wasn't the perp killed in the school by the police, according to reports?
How did the (dead?) body ultimately end up on the sidewalk assuming it did? Was it moved?

If you can get past that line of thought:
A different article at this news link here looks to be the same individual at the same spot. Now is that belt white, instead of the other one that looks black? Am I seeing things here?

Too much ADD?
(attention to detail disorder)



Exactly! Too many details out of place. No evidence that the guy on the ground was the 'shooter.'



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 08:32 AM
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How come these shootings always happen in the most liberal states with the tightest gun control laws.



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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Well this one seems to go to the Egyptian Uprising blow back. The Jordanian Royal Military man moves to Ohio. He brings his whole family to the US. He died a short time ago at 75. His daughter moves to California. Her husband has a amateur radio licence at the house that was burned down. Her sister is Neda Zawahiri who has videos posted on the internet speaking about how the Egyptian Uprising is such a great thing. But then you have a son who is pissed off his family does this type of thing to there own kind in the Middle East. They put him in a mental institution because he threatened to go Jihad. Well he finally did go Jihad and killed his family then tried to go after Americans.

www.nicholasinstitute.duke.edu...




Zawahri received her Ph.D. from the University of Virginia. Her research interests include conflict and cooperation between adversaries, international institutions, environmental security, the political economy of developing nations, Middle East politics, and South Asian politics with focus on India and Pakistan.


facultyprofile.csuohio.edu...




Creative and Activities: INVITED LECTURES Arab Spring and its Impact on the Israeli-Palestinian Dispute, Oberlin College, November 2012 Designing Treaties to Govern International Rivers, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, June 2012 Governing International Rivers, Tel Aviv University, June 2012. Designing Treaties to Govern International Rivers, Duke University, April 2012. COUNTDOWN 2012: Middle East A Panel Discussion with Experts from North East Ohio, at Cleveland Council on World Affairs, March 2012. The Arab Uprising of 2011, at Case Western Reserve University, February 2011. Managing the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers to Facilitate Cooperation and mitigate Conflict, at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson Center, October 2010. Managing International Rivers in the Middle East and South Asia, SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry, March 2010. Adapting to Climate Change in the Middle East, SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry, March 2010. An Introduction to Iran, Cleveland Council on World Affairs' Bridges Across the World Program, October 2009. Governing Middle Eastern Waters, University of Michigan Law School, April 2009. Attempts to Govern the Jordan River System, New Mexico State University, February 2009. INVITED WORKSHOPS Securitization of Migration, Water, and Climate Change Linkages in the Middle East, Water Security Conference, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, December 2012 (with Jeannie Sowers and Erika Weinthal) Advancing Cooperation in the Euphrates and Tigris Region: Institutional Development and Multidisciplinary Perspectives, Max Planck Institute for Comparative Law and International Law, Okan University and the Euphrates and Tigris Initiative for Cooperation, May 2012. Assessing Household Water Security in the Middle East and North Africa, International Water Security Conference, Oxford University April, 2012 (with Jeannie Sowers and Erika Weinthal). Building Institutional Adaptive Capacity to Respond to Climate Change in the Middle East, Building Adaptive Capacity to Respond to Climate Change in the Middle East Yale University September 2010. Climate Adaptation in the Middle East and North Africa: Challenges and Opportunities Workshop at Harvard University, May 2010. Politics of "Dirty" Water in the Middle East and North Africa, Workshop on Water Security, International Studies Association, February 2010. Research Grants: Co-Principal Investigator, USAID Technical Leadership Annual Program, 2012 Faculty Scholarship Initiative Award, 2011 Co-Principal Investigator Social Science Research Council, 2011 Co-Principal Investigator U.S. Department of Education Title VI-A Grant, 2005


She was in Pakistan in January as a speaker at a UN University.

www.gcu.edu.pk...
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 12:32 PM
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In addition to the drills they had the day before, there was a strange incident that may have presaged the rampage the next day or be otherwise connected:

www.smmirror.com...
dated 6-6-2013
Passengers on a Big Blue Bus were searched at Pico Boulevard and 14th Street in Santa Monica Thursday morning after a report was made of a possible passenger with a gun.
SMPD Sgt. Richard Lewis said officers responded at 8:30 am on the report of a man sitting at a bus stop on Pico and Centinela with what appeared to be a gun in his hand.
“The subject boarded the Big Blue Bus heading westbound on Pico,” Lewis said. “We stopped it at 14th. He had gotten off at 19th Street, but no one told us, and walked towards the residences. He was never stopped. Everybody on the bus was searched and no weapons were found and it was cleared.”

Was it part of the 'drill' taking place in LA? Or was it just a coincidence?



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:25 PM
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The incident is supposed to have been over by about 12:20pm at the latest:

www.washingtonpost.com... -cfde-11e2-8573-3baeea6a2647_story.html
Only about 20 minutes passed between the first reports of trouble and the gunman’s death, but it led to hours of fear and confusion in the balmy coastal city.

Yet oddly the emergency dispatch center kept receiving calls of 'shots fired' after the lone gunman was dead:

santamonicapd.org...
Reports of shots fired:
12:28pm at 21st street (2 blocks from the college)
2:18pm at 17nth and Cedar (1 block from the college)
2:38pm at 17nth and Pearl (right in front of the college)



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:27 PM
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www.latimes.com...
The suspect was identified by five law enforcement sources in Washington and Los Angeles as John Zawahri, in his 20s.

Though this was contradicted by another report:

www.freerepublic.com...
Neighbor reports shooter as Christopher Samir Zawahri also known as Chris Zawahri
--Christopher Samir Zawahri born 8/06/1987 and John Samir Zawahri born 06/08/1989. Both sons were born in Los Angeles County.

If it was John Zawahri, he was a day shy of his 24th birthday.  Interestingly, early reports said the shooter was between 25 and 30, which would have fit his brother.  Remember the early confusion at Sandy Hook between Adam and brother Ryan Lanza!

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pics of the weapons used:






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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Meanwhile, in Birmingham, AL:

www.uab.edu...
An emergency response preparedness drill will be conducted at the UAB Hill University Center (HUC) sometime after 1 p.m. on Friday, June 7, during which simulated gunfire will be heard, and participant actors appearing to have serious injuries will be transported to UAB hospital.
UAB faculty, staff and students, as well as the UAB and Birmingham police departments, will participate. Officials wearing neon yellow vests will establish a perimeter outside of HUC.....

blog.al.com...
The emergency response preparedness drill will mimic an active shooter scenario....

Where does the drill end, and the crisis begin?

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Shooter's high school photo:

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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 11:58 AM
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Helicopter seen at 'drill' in downtown LA, Thursday morning:



Helicopter seen at Santa Monica college shooting Friday afternoon:



Note: The area over the college was declared a 'no-fly' zone due to the presence of POTUS nearby. So no other police helicopters or news helicopters were allowed into the area. So is it just coincidence that the ONLY helo seen that day over the campus was the same gazillion-dollar Sheriff's Dept. toy that participated in the drill?

Some people are calling out the shooting in Santa Monica as a simulated event:

nodisinfo.com...

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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Got some interesting information to share that will make say WTF! So let us start off with one of the people the reporters interviewed at the scene.

abcnews.go.com...-V_mzfD4



Arezou Zakarai, who was in the library at the time of the shootings, told ABC News she was happy to be alive after the chilling ordeal.


Now let us take a quick moment for a reminder. From the same article.



Surveillance video footage released today shows fearful Santa Monica, Calif., restaurant-goers ducking under tables as a man, whom ABC News has identified as 23-year-old John Zawahri, opens fire outside, part of a shooting rampage in which four people were killed.


So is this another relative? I find her listed job on Linkedin strange.

www.linkedin.com...




personal shopper/ stylist FREE LANCE (Self-employed) Self-Employed; Myself Only; Public Relations and Communications industry June 2011 – Present (2 years 1 month)
personal stylist White House Black Market Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; Retail industry January 2011 – June 2011 (6 months)
Personal stylist/personal shopper, head person for floor set changes and window displays
internship Nordstrom Public Company; 10,001+ employees; JWN; Retail industry September 2006 – September 2008 (2 years 1 month) Sales Associate, Dressor for fashion shows, working with buyers.


White House Black Market? Does that say what I think it does?

There web site.
www.whitehouseblackmarket.com...

Oh it is just a clothing line. Or is it? The parent company is Chicos Brand Investment Inc. Lets take a look at what this company is up to.

www.chicosfas.com...




Betsy S. Atkins Director and Chairwoman of the Corporate Governance & Nominating Committee Director Since 2004 Betsy S. Atkins has been a director since 2004 and is the Chief Executive Officer of Baja Ventures, an independent venture capital firm focused on the technology, renewable energy and life sciences industry since 1994. Previously, Ms. Atkins was Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of NCI, Inc., a functional food/nutraceutical company from 1991 to 1993. Ms. Atkins was a co-founder of Ascend Communications, Inc. in 1989, a member of their Board of Directors, and served as its Executive Vice President of Sales, Marketing, Professional Services and International Operations prior to its acquisition by Lucent Technologies in 1999. Ms. Atkins was recently named Chairman of the Board for Vantrix and also serves on the Boards of Directors of Polycom, Inc., SunPower Corporation, Schneider Electric, S.A., as well as a number of private companies. Previously, Ms. Atkins served on the boards of directors of Vonage Holdings Corp. from 2005 to 2007, Reynolds American, Inc. from 2004 to 2010 and Towers Watson, Inc. during 2010. Ms. Atkins was a Presidential-appointee to the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation advisory committee from 2001 to 2003, and has been a member of the Florida International University College of Medicine Health Care Network Faculty Group Practice, Inc. since February 2010.


This woman is tied into a lot more than clothing. Hell she is not linked to any clothing. Just spy companies. Ascend,Lucent,Vantrix,Vonage which are all communication companies.




Janice L. Fields Director and member of the Corporate Governance & Nominating Committee Director Since 2013 Janice L. Fields has been a director since May of 2013. Ms. Fields served as President of McDonald’s USA, LLC, a subsidiary of McDonald’s Corporation, from January 2010 through November 2012. Previously, Ms. Fields held numerous other roles at McDonald’s, having started her career as a crew member. Prior to serving as President, she held several executive positions within McDonald’s USA, including U.S. Division President for the Central Division from 2003 through 2006 and Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer from 2006 through January 2010. Ms. Fields currently serves on the Board of Directors of Monsanto Company, a leading global provider of agricultural products. Ms. Fields also serves on the boards of The Field Museum, The Global Board of Ronald McDonald House Charities, and chairs the Board of United Cerebral Palsy.


This one tied into Mc Donalds and Monsanto. I know every body complains about Monsanto and its evil seed conspiracies.



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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David F. Walker Director and Chairman of the Audit Committee Director Since 2005 David F. Walker has been a director since 2005. From 2002 through 2009, he was the Director of the Accountancy Program at the University of South Florida in St. Petersburg and led the school’s Program for Social Responsibility and Corporate Reporting. For approximately 27 years, through 2002, Mr. Walker was with the accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP, having served as a partner with the firm from 1986 until 2002, and most recently until 2002 as partner in charge of the firm’s assurance and business advisory services practice in the Florida/Caribbean region. Mr. Walker is a certified public accountant, certified fraud examiner, and holds a Masters of Business Administration degree from the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. He currently also serves on the Board of Directors of CommVault Systems, Inc. and CoreLogic, Inc. Mr. Walker also served on the Boards of Directors of Paradyne Networks, Inc. from 2003 until 2005, First Advantage Corporation from 2003 until 2009 and Technology Research Corporation, Inc. from 2004 to 2010.


This guy is tied into data management companies. And comes from the Tampa area with the head quarters of the War on Terror.


So was that woman just a innocent by stander or a target by a Jihad attack on spying?



posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 01:26 PM
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Don't forget Nada who is being paid by USAID.

www.paulhensel.org...



Grants Received "Managing International Water Conflicts" (with Sara McLaughlin Mitchell, Andrea Gerlak, and Neda Zawahri) From the US Agency for International Development; January 2013 - December 2014. ($25,000 for UNT, $151,211 for the University of Iowa, $10,000 for the University of Arizona, and $10,000 for Cleveland State University) "Contentious Issues in World Politics: Updating the ICOW Dataset." (with Sara McLaughlin Mitchell) From the National Science Foundation; September 2010 - August 2013. ($260,330 for UNT, $160,000 for Iowa)


And Sara McLaughlin Mitchell is the main person in running spy operations and conflict resolution as a excuse.

Take a look at some of her recent books.

works.bepress.com...




Her most recent book is Domestic Law Goes Global: Legal Traditions and International Courts (Cambridge University Press, 2011), with Emilia Justyna Powell. She co-directs the Issue Correlates of War Project, for which she has received a series of awards from the National Science Foundation Articles OpenURL Contentious Issues as Opportunities for Diversionary Behavior (with Clayton L. Thyne), Conflict Management and Peace Science (2010) Scholars have long been fascinated by the potential for leaders to engage in diversionary behavior,... PDF How Democracies Keep the Peace: Contextual Factors That Influence Conflict Management Strategies (with Glynn Ellis and Brandon C. Prins), American Political Science Association Conference (2008) Some studies find that democratic states are more amenable to third party forms of conflict... PDF IO Mediation of Interstate Conflicts: Moving Beyond the Global vs. Regional Dichotomy (with Holley Hansen and Stephen C. Nemeth), Journal of Conflict Resolution (2008) Regional and global intergovernmental organizations have grown both in number and scope, yet their role... PDF The Creation and Expansion of the International Criminal Court: A Legal Explanation (with Emilia Justyna Powell), Midwest Political Science Association Conference (2008) International courts have proliferated in the international system in the past century, with one hundred... OpenURL Bones of Contention: Comparing Territorial, Maritime, and River Issues (with Paul R. Hensel; Thomas E. Sowers, II; and Clayton L. Thyne), Journal of Conflict Resolution (2008) Contentious issues are important sources of militarized conflict. This article advances an issue-based approach to...

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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 03:50 PM
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The witnesses said the shooter was wearing boots:

blogs.kcrw.com...
A witness at Pico Boulevard and Cloverfield told KCRW’s Steve Chiotakis that she saw a man dressed all in black with gloves, belt and boots, who was shooting straight ahead of him, not aiming at anyone. She said the man’s clothing made it look like he was in the military.

www.cnn.com...
A female witness... The man -- who she said was wearing black combat boots and what appeared to be a bullet-proof vest -- was quiet and walking casually....

Like in this photo:



However, pics of the dead suspect seemingly include the shoes he was wearing:



So who did the discarded boot belong to? The dead female can collector? Methinks someone was worried about a dead suspect with those boots on. Maybe they too closely resembled boots worn by SWAT or maybe they were even department regulation footware. So they take off his boots, drag him outside and drop a pair of sneakers next to him.

I have heard of a 'drop' weapon, but this must be the first documented use by cops of 'drop' sneakers.

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Also note the presence of two tactical vests, one with the boot, and another seen positioned over the dead shooter's head.




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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:26 PM
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I don't understand why they only had part of the CAR15 in there show of the weapons he had.

Are they trying to hide something. the CAR 15 upper is a very uncommon weapon as the barrel is under 16 inches and the flash hider must be silver soldiered on the barrel so that its permanent making the barrel then over 16 inches long.

From what i see this CAR15 upper is very old and likely not in good shape likely around 1970s.

I would guess the weapon belonged to the father or is stolen. the gunman is too young to have legally owned it under the AW laws in calif.
Enforcement relative to the illegal possession of SB 23 assault weapons went into effect January 1, 2001
That would have made the gunman 12 years old and unable to buy the gun when the laws banning there sale went into effect.
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posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 05:47 PM
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www.ledorvador.org...



Sustaining the Jewish bonds of today, and creating stronger bonds for tomorrow Known for its efforts in connecting the young leaders of the Iranian Jewish community through activism, Zionism, and philanthropy, Ledor Vador is here to embrace that inherent connection we all have to our heritage and further its development from generation to generation.


So a Jewish Iranian Zionism group? Wow!

And then check out this link for them.

www.ledorvador.org...



Venue Director and Catering Director Arezou Zakaria & Diana Kohan



posted on Jun, 11 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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Witnesses said the shooter had cornrows or dreadlocks. If you look closely you can see something like that on this image:



But was this the suspect Zawahri?

www.capitalbay.com... -was-angry-at-parents-divorce.html
Meadows added that the suspect had recently shaved his head and grown a beard.


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Pics of the .223 rounds. Looks like some pretty fancy ammo. Anybody recognize it?





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