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Anonymous Just Leaked a Trove of NSA Documents

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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by OneManArmy

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by rayuki
this seems so damn dodgy. the MSM report about this stuff, THEN anon release it? more and more ANON looking like a shill for the government if not the NSA themselves.


Right, because the government WANTS the people to completely distrust everything they do, right?


Obama could really use some negative publicity right now, and GCHQ doesn't have enough to do in the wake of Lee Rigby's death that they NEED the attention of the entire public on them.


Unless you can offer some evidence for you belief that this is "fishy" (or even some common sense, for that matter) I'm gonna go with the US being caught with their fingers in the cookie jar.
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Heres a hypothetical scenario.....

Maybe people like David Icke, Alex Jones and the rise of the "conspiracy theorist" and now Anonymous are simply doing a job which is to sow the seeds of discontent and actually create a revolution, it wouldnt be the first time.



create a Revolution with What? a society that is ninety percent socially and mentally Retarded???? Are we talking the Same country? oK, im beng a little over dramatic,

Make that 75% Retarded.

remember, this is a nation that signs a Petition to ban water. ( Austin) or to have a Jews celebrate Holocaust day with digging fake graves and all...or how about the majority who don't even know Why we celebrate July 4th, and That's just the Dice petitions...and Those folks are going to revolt--revolution????

Napolean himself couldn't whip these brain dead into a half ass Army if he promised them all of France and Russia too! So Revolution,

Nah...but take away cell phones, porn and chicken mgnuggets and they'll cannibalize one another. I often wonder if That isn't truly the global agenda, stirring up the pot to point where the masses will feast in madness on one another while the elites sit back and enjoy the show.

But Revolution, nah, the Only ones Smart enough to revolt, are a small minority, OR the gangs in prison...as well as the non violent no victims crimes locked up...as for the majority, the 75%,

Only revolution they capable of, is slapping a sex slave around or shaking a baby to death because they pissed the baby woke them up...

Even these types of Forums, are a Very small minority, that's the level of dumbed down Absurdistan,

No offense, but logically it's truth.

The protests we Do have, I'd say twenty percent are Serious, the rest are just frustrated and it's "chic" to be radical...

Those who are Serious, are to broke down poverty wise or pragmatic enough to Know, the pluralism is so divisive that even IF there was to be Any kind of revolt...it would be more along the lines of lawlessness and gang thuggery type, Cannalbalism, unleashed rage, which WAS by design from the get go.

You don't think those Elites buy up development in Dubai just because they like the sand do you????

Revolution-wishful thinking, there isn't enough Misery but more so,
Lthere isn't even a Class Consciousness to point where anything could come out of it...as for Nationalism,

THAT Would be something to be concerned about (civil war) but even there...black nationalists are a minority, other than the Islamists, the hip hop crap culture took care of that (by design, yes the nationalists are well aware of the problems), the Latinos are divided or running with cartels etc (those political again, small minority), the true to ideology RCP etc are again, small minority, the bourgeoisie socialists, can't keep their wee wees in their Pants to do anything,

And well the rest.....are waiting for a Savior or another politician,

The Feds could lock us up tomorrow on trains, and the majority would be arguing on where the camps are and what color they are painted all the while Denying...there is Tryanny.

Revolution....

Use to be the term, better red than dead...now it's

BETTER Americas got Talent or Kardashian? Than X factor etc.

We would be better off joining the mass animal die offs, waiting for revolution...Ain't going to happen. Sad as that is...




posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by ThreeBears
The protests we Do have, I'd say twenty percent are Serious, the rest are just frustrated and it's "chic" to be radical...



Or they're just people watching it all go down, helpless and getting angrier each month, each year, as the world they used to know slowly turns into a prison. If it's fu-cking chic to feel that way, then the world is more fu-cked up than I thought.
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 03:58 AM
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 03:59 AM
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:00 AM
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Anonymous did not just leak a trove of NSA documents.
These documents are mainly just DoD Whitepapers talking about the implementation and transition to an improved intranet.
The INSA spies document you can get from cryptome.org, and even that's just talking about the National Security Alliance (**not** the NSA).

This whole thing is either a scam or 200% proof that Anon is, today, nothing more than a psy-op to reassure the non-tech-savvy majority that the l33t hackers are fighting back so they can just go back to watching Cop Rock or American Idol, or whatever it is these days~

~E.C.



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:00 AM
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:01 AM
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:07 AM
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Well I'm not about to read 4 pages of rambling from ATS, but I did waste an hour going through this so-called document dump. NOTHING TO SEE HERE. Not a single paper is classified. Hell, not even FOUO.

Mostly boring document dump

This paper is moderately interesting if you don't know about fusion centers. But absolutely nothing in it is secret.
[url=http://thedocs.hostzi.com/NSI_EE.pdf]DOJ _/url]



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:23 AM
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This whole thing is either a scam or 200% proof that Anon is, today, nothing more than a psy-op to reassure the non-tech-savvy majority that the l33t hackers are fighting back so they can just go back to watching Cop Rock or American Idol, or whatever it is these days~


You are 100% correct. What is really sad is the press didn't know this is just a dump of boring management papers. Have they never seen a classified document?



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by Archie

Originally posted by ThreeBears
The protests we Do have, I'd say twenty percent are Serious, the rest are just frustrated and it's "chic" to be radical...



Or they're just people watching it all go down, helpless and getting angrier each month, each year, as the world they used to know slowly turns into a prison. If it's fu-cking chic to feel that way, then the world is more fu-cked up than I thought.
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Wrong Archie, maybe in Australia, which is a very different political/psychological make up, in comparison to the US, in the US it is, sad to say, "chic" to be so called radical...

I saw it all the time in my more activist days...Priveleged folks griping about the bad ole government but then having not a callous Work hand.

No the REAL ANGER was on the Streets, but you see THOSE people don't bother with protests because they KNOW how utterly MURDEROUS the government truly is,

It's the rest of the not so awake who still hang on to this MYTH that government is some decent agency and that it's only That party or This party, etc., it hasn't hit them yet...

The pissed off middle class, over the past few years, That's because they are now feeling the effects, that the underclass has felt for decades...and they are pissed...BUT they like You say remember the good ole days when THEY were able to look down at the undesirables and be content that "they were safe" after all, Government only does bad things to "those undesirables who deserve it"

But see NOW that insulation attribution bubble is being ripped to shreds...BUT here's the Real clincher,

The pissed off middle class is Still a MINORITY,

The rest of the majority OF THAT CLASS Will be pissed for a day or two, then they'll conveniently settle down into acceptance, because UNTIL its their asses being drug out of their homes they just won't get it. So them being "angry"

No, hardly. America has a LOOONG way to go before she gets to be on the Consciousness level of let's say France or even the UK though the UK seems to be softening, but then they have been used to government control etc., which is why you won't see Rarely ANY protest whatsoever at the new legis in Scotland over the State having a mandatory State guardian over Every child born, oh no, women are just f holes for the Government now and yet no outrage...in Britain, there already IS Camaras put into INTO homes for the nanny state to see everything parents do to children so if nanny state doesn't like what you Feed your own kids that YOU birthed why then nanny state can remove them and arrest you, all under guise of child abuse prevention and they have plans on doing this in Everyone's home and uh, people think its a mighty swell idea...

So uh, no, we're talking about a Major mind binding that has gone on since WWII, really kicking off in the sixties and picking up speed, BTW this applies to the Other post you commented on towards my reply,

Look it's not that it doesn't anger me, but the thing is, the Governments can Do this because the people have consented by Passitivity Loooong time ago, just because a few who are awake get angry doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot. I don't just blame government, I blame lazy apathetic indifferent Citizens too, because the dynamic works that way,

And sure, you can blame education and blame media, and they are yes a part of the cult programming BUT, they aren't the ONLY part...like marketing the puppeteers work to manipulate the DEMANDS and DESIRES already there in the Public,

The gov has been pushing boundaries inch by inch for decades and the citizens have more than Happily obliged, ESPECIALLY IF IT DIDN'T DISTURB THEM...They could care Less about their Neighbors being hauled off and destroyed by the police state...they simply attributed it to, well those people did something or those gov bodies wouldn't have gone after them, after all we good righteous people the gov likes us...etc ,

And That sad to say is the Mentality of most.

I can tell you that in America, big %of the radical protesters are upper middle class, who've never Suffered a day in their life...I'm talking real suffering. because the ONES that Have suffered at the hands of unjust government aren't willing to waste time pleading with a regime they already know dont give a Fk...if ya know what I mean,

The Only ones I've seen who protest or Plead rather, are the Mothers who are fighting to save their children and That's because the sorry piece of sht gov will KILL those children (or let them be killed by psycho fathers or foster care) so they Kiss ass to Save their kids,

That's the government I KNOW and I can tell you Most people don't give a crap....

It Hasn't hit home with them YET.

BY the time it Does hit them, it will be Too late

They'll either be So conditioned and Brain washed, OR too broken in Spirit and Resigned.
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 05:40 AM
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only my second bump ever.
just cant add anything...sweet!!

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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 06:26 AM
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Okay... PAUSE.
Breath................

Do any of you know what ANONYMOUS stands for?

By the b.s. I have seen typed in this thread I think most of you shrug off Anon's as a angry hippies living in his/her parents basement.

Trust Me, the beginning is near.



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by OneManArmy
Ahhh, that might explain why this is suddenly news...

www.abovetopsecret.com...


speaking of "suddenly news" this is from '84 (thirty years ago, by the way):



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 07:46 AM
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I'm in agreement that these documents were leaked deliberately to try to gain approval for needing safeguards against hacking and then the release of incriminating information.



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 08:09 AM
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Who is the good guy here?
You need these agencies. There's plenty of dirt out there



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 08:12 AM
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double post
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 09:09 AM
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Only when data passes through a server based in the US; someone set up a Google alternative in Vanuatu.



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by OneManArmy

Originally posted by rayuki
this seems so damn dodgy. the MSM report about this stuff, THEN anon release it? more and more ANON looking like a shill for the government if not the NSA themselves.

obviously there is an agenda here with them bringing it out in the open then all of a sudden less then a day later ANON go "oh hey guys heres some docs we just hacked!" yeah right


this is fishy as high hell.


Thats exactly what I have been thinking. I think they have been created to justify the clampdown on "internet terrorism" aka free speech and the free flow of information.

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I agree.
When anonymous came onto the scene, it was all looking pretty promising.
Unfortunately they haven't come across with anything at all.

Videos come out where they make threats towards governments etc but to be honest, if they were as good as they make out, bankers and corporate leaders AND politicians would be behind bars but the criminals are continuing with their agenda.
Look at Bradley Manning. Didn't they warn of consequences if he wasn't set free ?
No. I think anonymous are there to fool us and give us false hope.



posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by PapagiorgioCZ
Who is the good guy here?
You need these agencies. There's plenty of dirt out there


Sure there is, and how much of that "dirt" is there either as a direct consequence of their corrupt existence, or what they deliberately created in order to justify their existence and funding?
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posted on Jun, 8 2013 @ 09:30 AM
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Unfortunately you are right. We are completely screwed. Pissing in the wind. There is only one thing that will destroy them, and that is themselves. People are too stupid/apathetic/ignorant/selfish to do anything, and this is what gives the elite their power over us all. They use our weaknesses against ourselves. However, they are also human beings (unless you subscribe to David Icke's theories) and will fall victim to the same faults. No system lasts forever.




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