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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by smyleegrl
Are you sure that's not just the program teaching you to feel and think positively about it, affecting how you perceive the results?
ACT is developed within a pragmatic philosophy called functional contextualism. ACT is based on relational frame theory (RFT), a comprehensive theory of language and cognition that is an offshoot of behavior analysis. ACT differs from traditional cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) in that rather than trying to teach people to better control their thoughts, feelings, sensations, memories and other private events, ACT teaches them to "just notice," accept, and embrace their private events, especially previously unwanted ones. ACT helps the individual get in contact with a transcendent sense of self known as "self-as-context"—the you that is always there observing and experiencing and yet distinct from one's thoughts, feelings, sensations, and memories. ACT aims to help the individual clarify their personal values and to take action on them, bringing more vitality and meaning to their life in the process, increasing their psychological flexibility.
Originally posted by Kokatsi
A lot of what I learned under NLP coaching for years would fall into this bracket, though you might say 'cause of hypnotic patterns (ericksonian trance) it does not completely fall under this category... Cheers!
DBT combines standard cognitive-behavioral techniques for emotion regulation and reality-testing with concepts of distress tolerance, acceptance, and mindful awareness largely derived from Buddhist meditative practice. DBT may be the first therapy that has been experimentally demonstrated to be generally effective in treating BPD.[3][4] A meta-analysis found that DBT reached moderate effects.[5] Research indicates that DBT is also effective in treating patients who present varied symptoms and behaviors associated with spectrum mood disorders, including self-injury.[6] Recent work suggests its effectiveness with sexual abuse survivors[7] and chemical dependency.
It teaches you to think properly. Rather than struggle with things we have no control over, but we instinctively struggle with, we can learn to accept and be committed to acting in a way that benefits us.
CBT is powerful, but it is also only partially correct - in that it asks you to change your thinking. Rather than change your thinking, accepting it and making room for the thoughts you have, good or bad, and just accepting them is a more maintainable goal, at least for me.
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But it pretty much saved my life.
Originally posted by DexterRiley
I'm glad that so many of you are finding some healing in CBT. But, I don't know that I would call it the Holy Grail. Even if 99% of the patients (or practitioners) find relief by utilizing its techniques, what happens to that one person who not only receives no relief, but experiences damage from its application. There are potential downsides.
For the most part, I consider CBT to be less therapy and more re-programming. So, I'd call it Cognitive Behavioral Re-Programming (CBRP.) It teaches you to right-think, rather than wrong-think; and to be a good little human. Fit in, and feel good.
Some of those extremely painful emotions and seemingly unwarranted emotional reactions may be there for a purpose. One thing to consider is that while a subject is in the process of "thinking about thinking," his otherwise spontaneous, and possibly bizarre reaction may be the correct one for him. Yet, the spontaneity is lost. And the reaction that is selected, based on the application of the new meta-thinking rule-set, may be so contrary to his personality that it does more harm than good.
With respect to the "exposure therapy," what happens when you find out that there was plenty to fear from the fearful situation. Now you have even more reason to fear it. Don't be goaded into testing your newly-installed meta-thinking rule-set until you are certain that you can handle the consequences of their failure to induce the correct behavior for you.
One must also be careful of whom one selects as a "teacher." Your teacher should be able to judge how your individuality will respond to their teaching, and adjust the curriculum accordingly. Beware of those teachers who believe that they must start from scratch with their re-programming; their lesson-plan may be very poisonous to your uniqueness. The mind is a very delicate instrument. One size does not fit all. And an unsuccessful attempt at complete re-programming of your cognitive axioms may leave you worse-off than you were before.
In summary I want to say that there are potentially great benefits in the application of some, or all, of the techniques of CBT. But you must integrate those new techniques into your cognitive processes in your own way, at your own pace. It is possible that some of your pre-existing "wrong-think" is so basely ingrained in your cognitive processing system that any attempt to replace those core directives with "right-think" can cause the entire system to crash. And it's not as simple as CTRL+ALT+DELETE to reboot it. As Bruce Lee put it: "Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own."
Dex
Originally posted by Sandalphon
It teaches you to think properly. Rather than struggle with things we have no control over, but we instinctively struggle with, we can learn to accept and be committed to acting in a way that benefits us.
CBT is powerful, but it is also only partially correct - in that it asks you to change your thinking. Rather than change your thinking, accepting it and making room for the thoughts you have, good or bad, and just accepting them is a more maintainable goal, at least for me.
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But it pretty much saved my life.
It's magical thinking for the 21st century.
I always took it as a Stockholm syndrome when one couldn't escape the psychology industry. If you can't escape it, fall in love with it, choose the manipulation for your maximum benefit. To an outsider it's still brainwashing, in a formula. In the end it's believing in words having power, or seeing what you want to see. That's life.
Glad you found a way to cope with whatever ailed you.edit on 8-6-2013 by Sandalphon because: Quote mess
Originally posted by ThreeBears
Originally posted by Sandalphon
It teaches you to think properly. Rather than struggle with things we have no control over, but we instinctively struggle with, we can learn to accept and be committed to acting in a way that benefits us.
CBT is powerful, but it is also only partially correct - in that it asks you to change your thinking. Rather than change your thinking, accepting it and making room for the thoughts you have, good or bad, and just accepting them is a more maintainable goal, at least for me.
...
But it pretty much saved my life.
It's magical thinking for the 21st century.
I always took it as a Stockholm syndrome when one couldn't escape the psychology industry. If you can't escape it, fall in love with it, choose the manipulation for your maximum benefit. To an outsider it's still brainwashing, in a formula. In the end it's believing in words having power, or seeing what you want to see. That's life.
Glad you found a way to cope with whatever ailed you.edit on 8-6-2013 by Sandalphon because: Quote mess
DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!!! Stockholm Syndrome is EXACTLY what this "therapy" is which is WHY BDSM manuals USE it to Train Trafficked Sex Slaves, FACT. Of course it doesn't Work, unless Drugs are combined with to Dull the Physical pain from torture etc (or being raped as Children by full grown pig men) and thereby causing Severe DID (Dissasociative Identity Disorder), Detatchment Disorders and Complex PTSD,
Also psyches working to Keep children shut up about abuse Use it, as well as CULTS use it as well, the OCCULT, years of forced visual thinking while IGNORING REAL WARNINGS causes ALTARS,
Yea Pedowanks LOVE this type of "cogniticpve therapy" as well do other Sadists and Mind Binder Exploiters. It works Great...
For a while, the Problem is that it requires constant reinforcement, hence the drug therapies to DULL the Senses, one being Pain and Anger which is our Brain and Body's way of saying, "Yoo Hoo Something Wrong here, maybe you should Check your Radar or REMOVE yourself from a TOXIC situation..."
So Rather than hold criminals, ABUSERS, toxic people Accountable, changing Real Negative destructive situations, oh no
Let's just Brainwash people into Loving their BONDAGE.
Don't need a behavior manual to figure This out...PIMPS use these methods ALL the time, as do many a serial killer and slave master.
Stockholm Syndrome is EXACTLY what this "therapy" is which is WHY BDSM manuals USE it to Train Trafficked Sex Slaves, FACT.