posted on Jun, 9 2013 @ 04:23 PM
Originally posted by CornShucker
Your Red/Blue mention is insightful. Things have changed so much over my lifetime. What the pundits are doing with such over-simplified tagging
concerns me. I doubt most that are the most swayed are even aware it's happened.
I'm uncomfortable that the Red/Blue thing is doing real damage in that it only serves to polarize the country. It was gratifying to see that there
are a few out there that have started referring to themselves as Purple. It may only be a matter of time before some politically correct pundit jumps
on that as stepping on the toes of the gay community, but I think it does a good job of expressing, "I'm Neither... I'm an American and I am capable
of making up my own mind, thank you very much..!"
Thanks again for the cordial reply. I'm glad you understood it wasn't knee-jerk or meant as hurtful. Sometimes my sense of humor gets me in
I too like you have been around the block a bit and have seen the world change. I do think the deep polarization of the red/blue troublesome because
the "model is not the thing" however shorthand in the form of labels is neccessary for any discussion or analysis and always refers only to the
By education is quite varied and quite liberal but I have several deep seated conservative traits as well.
I try to be very clear that this is not speaking about any individual person (or group of persons), only trends seen in a carefully designed poll.
Did Gallup intend this result - probably - they are masters in this field. But it does give us interesting (and valid) data nontheless.
People (including myself) get very confused with terminology and methodology and scope. Personally I think scope is a hugely neglectied and difficult
concept. (i.e. you can't compare an individual to a small group and make a valid comparison). The scope of this poll was very large and never was
meant to be valid on an individual level. But the trend, at the scope, of hundreds and thousands, is valid (it's called sampling}.
And that's only confusion about the actual study itself - not it's conclusions or intrepretations.
I'm rambling here a bit (lol).
I think this 'divide' red/blue is becoming greater and I seek to truly understand and find it difficult. Big reason I'm here. I understand living in
fear, I understand knee-jerk reactions to events and words, I understand how difficult it is to accept change. But what I have trouble understanding
is the unwillingness to even attempt to go beyond one's limited conceptions; this lack of desire to grow in understanding (and compassion) even to
the point of being distainful of those who what to explore new ideas and ways of thinking and behavior.
Tradition is good. Progress is good. But the blind adherence to either is destructive (dare I say, evil). Wise balance between the two requires
honest appraisal of costs/benefits of all possible answers. And that requires the use of all the tools at our command including polls of this
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