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Citing Stand Your Ground, Jury Acquits Man Who Killed Wife’s Lover

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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 07:48 AM
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Obviously it depends on a number of factors. Is he upright? How close are you? Is there something within reach you could just club him with?

It's not as if I catch a glimpse out of the corner of my eye and go Yosemite Sam. Geez.




posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
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Got to be honest and tell you if I came home from work and there was a man on top of my wife I'd definitely shoot first.



Jesus all mighty...so...if you find someone on top of your wife in your own house...the first instinct is to shoot on the spot, because she is most likely being..."attacked"??? Really...that is the most likely scenario??

My God...

In some people's lives, that is the most likely scenario.
Not all wives are serial cheaters that can be expected to be found screwing the neighbor.

ETA: I suppose that some women might be offended that you think all women are like that.
edit on 6-6-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



that would be funny...were it not sad. Carry on you psychos.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by peashooter
Cheating aside, what worries me is that the wife knew who the man was, so any homicide involving a known victim to the family member inside their home may be justified in the future.

Reminds me of the Oscar Pistorius's case, where he shot his wife in mistake for an intruder.

Both cases the target was not identified before they were shot.

I'm all for self-defense, but not the "shoot first ask questions later" kind.



Why not? People in the US learned this method of self defense from our local Police forces. If it is good enough for them, why not us?



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
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Obviously it depends on a number of factors. Is he upright? How close are you?

If you believe he is raping your wife, how far apart could they be? Let's just say they are pretty close.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
 





Got to be honest and tell you if I came home from work and there was a man on top of my wife I'd definitely shoot first.



Jesus all mighty...so...if you find someone on top of your wife in your own house...the first instinct is to shoot on the spot, because she is most likely being..."attacked"??? Really...that is the most likely scenario??

My God...

In some people's lives, that is the most likely scenario.
Not all wives are serial cheaters that can be expected to be found screwing the neighbor.

ETA: I suppose that some women might be offended that you think all women are like that.
edit on 6-6-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



that would be funny...were it not sad. Carry on you psychos.

You find it sad that some people enter into a contract of marriage that binds them to one another, to the end? Devoted to each other completely.

I think that is sad.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by IvanAstikov

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
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Obviously it depends on a number of factors. Is he upright? How close are you?

If you believe he is raping your wife, how far apart could they be? Let's just say they are pretty close.


You are either inexperienced at more than one sexual position... or you are not an experienced shooter.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:00 AM
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Most rapes are committed by someone who knows the victim so just because the guy knows the man on top of his wife doesn't mean that he believes the sex is consensual.

I'm surprised stand you ground applies in this case. I thought it was mainly for outside the home saying you don't have to retreat in the face of a criminal. I think the castle doctrine would be more applicable in this situation.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
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Well, yes, yes it is.

Nobody has any reason to be in my house. We never have guests. Strangers dont just stop by. The only person who has been to our property in the past year is a family member and the guy who reads the electric meter.

If there is a car on the dead-end dirt road that isnt ours something is up. If there is a car in our driveway something is definitely up. If there is another person in the house then something is very wrong.

Maybe you have strange people in and out of your house all the time?



I have a strange sensation of not going for a gun at first sign of something my eyes don't understand. But that's just me...dirty stupid hippie.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
 





Got to be honest and tell you if I came home from work and there was a man on top of my wife I'd definitely shoot first.



Jesus all mighty...so...if you find someone on top of your wife in your own house...the first instinct is to shoot on the spot, because she is most likely being..."attacked"??? Really...that is the most likely scenario??

My God...

In some people's lives, that is the most likely scenario.
Not all wives are serial cheaters that can be expected to be found screwing the neighbor.

ETA: I suppose that some women might be offended that you think all women are like that.
edit on 6-6-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



that would be funny...were it not sad. Carry on you psychos.

You find it sad that some people enter into a contract of marriage that binds them to one another, to the end? Devoted to each other completely.

I think that is sad.



I find it sad that you call it a contract. But to each his own...enjoy your marriage.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

You are either inexperienced at more than one sexual position... or you are not an experienced shooter.

Wrong on the first one and how many people are experienced at shooting rapists in the middle of the act, while leaving the person being raped unharmed? Is there a club I can join where they teach these methods?



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by IvanAstikov

Originally posted by butcherguy

You are either inexperienced at more than one sexual position... or you are not an experienced shooter.

Wrong on the first one and how many people are experienced at shooting rapists in the middle of the act, while leaving the person being raped unharmed? Is there a club I can join where they teach these methods?

You have answered my question on which you have no experience doing.
It is shooting.
An experienced shooter can hit his target.

ETA: Apparently the 70 year old man could give you lessons.... he accomplished it. (maybe he took a course)

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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:08 AM
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It's not that hard to figure out.

A bullet travels straight and flat at such short distances. Would you stand over them and shoot down? No. Would you stand behind them and shoot horizontal? Sure. Would you kneel and shoot up at an angle? Sure.

Im guessing you're just trolling over this at this point because it's plainly obvious that there are decisions to be made and a time to and a time not to shoot.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
 





Got to be honest and tell you if I came home from work and there was a man on top of my wife I'd definitely shoot first.



Jesus all mighty...so...if you find someone on top of your wife in your own house...the first instinct is to shoot on the spot, because she is most likely being..."attacked"??? Really...that is the most likely scenario??

My God...

In some people's lives, that is the most likely scenario.
Not all wives are serial cheaters that can be expected to be found screwing the neighbor.

ETA: I suppose that some women might be offended that you think all women are like that.
edit on 6-6-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



that would be funny...were it not sad. Carry on you psychos.

You find it sad that some people enter into a contract of marriage that binds them to one another, to the end? Devoted to each other completely.

I think that is sad.



I find it sad that you call it a contract. But to each his own...enjoy your marriage.


Here, just for those who do not understand marriage.....


Marriage (also called matrimony or wedlock) is a social union or legal contract

Wikipedia: Marriage



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:19 AM
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I want more of a back story on this guy and his wife. I have been with mine now for 10 years and i can't see how a woman or a man could cheat on the spouse after that long, much less at his age 70.. Yes her age does matter. It may show a propensity of this kind of behavior.

Consider this


Now think.. this may have been premeditated. He may have thought this gal was his soul mate ( no such thing) and had an idea they were getting it on. All he had to do was catch him in the act and make up this story. It would have been brilliant if thats what happened, and if so, yeah, I applaud this guy. The cheating wife deserves all the torment she gets over this and yes, the other guy does deserve to be dead. He violated the sanctity of a marriage bound by law and blood and in the eyes of God.

Me, I wouldn't taken this scumbags life over this but I can find no fault in this man for doing so.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by IvanAstikov
There's some messed up thought processes on display in this thread. Good old SYG... always guaranteed to bring the cranks out of hiding to defend it.


mmmmmmm yeaaaaaaaah. feels good. doesnt it?



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
 


Well, yes, yes it is.

Nobody has any reason to be in my house. We never have guests. Strangers dont just stop by. The only person who has been to our property in the past year is a family member and the guy who reads the electric meter.

If there is a car on the dead-end dirt road that isnt ours something is up. If there is a car in our driveway something is definitely up. If there is another person in the house then something is very wrong.

Maybe you have strange people in and out of your house all the time?


lol. yeah no good if he says yes



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:45 AM
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Besides the point. You calling it a contract only reveals your mindset.

Nobody who's married calls it a contract. And what is more...a contract usually obliges you to do something...a marriage is only a promise, not an obligation...you can not be legally made to honor that "contract"...and therefore not a real contract in literal sense. It's just called that way for legal purposes.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
 


Well, yes, yes it is.

Nobody has any reason to be in my house. We never have guests. Strangers dont just stop by. The only person who has been to our property in the past year is a family member and the guy who reads the electric meter.

If there is a car on the dead-end dirt road that isnt ours something is up. If there is a car in our driveway something is definitely up. If there is another person in the house then something is very wrong.

Maybe you have strange people in and out of your house all the time?


lol. yeah no good if he says, "yes"



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by butcherguy
 


Besides the point. You calling it a contract only reveals your mindset.

Nobody who's married calls it a contract. And what is more...a contract usually obliges you to do something...a marriage is only a promise, not an obligation...you can not be legally made to honor that "contract"...and therefore not a real contract in literal sense. It's just called that way for legal purposes.

Hmmmm.
Ever heard of a Prenuptial Agreement?




Nobody who's married calls it a contract.

Uh, I'm married. I call it a contract.




It's just called that way for legal purposes.

Hey, you are catching on. Marriages are legal contracts, that is why they issue marriage licenses. It makes it legal.
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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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Well, yes, yes it is. Nobody has any reason to be in my house. We never have guests. Strangers dont just stop by. The only person who has been to our property in the past year is a family member and the guy who reads the electric meter.



so let's play this than. Let's imagine that you're married, and you come home, and there really is a meter guy...and your wife was up for it....and they went to bed...and then you come in and find them. This may seem like a porn situation, but I'm sure it happens. SO you shoot the guy for it...or the wife? or both? and do you think they deserve it? is it important to you at all if it's consentual? or is just your ego heavily bruised and must kill for your honor?



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