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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Legal immigrants = awesome.
Illegal immigrants = very bad for America and very expensive for the US tax payer.
Those are two totally different things.
The distinction made is only in the minds of human beings . In reality there is no difference between a legal and illegal human being
Originally posted by Hopechest
... its the illegal immigrants who are a problem.
They do not contribute to society in the same way.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Hopechest
Originally posted by Hopechest
... its the illegal immigrants who are a problem.
They do not contribute to society in the same way.
And Irish people drink a lot, Arabs are terrorists, black people like watermelon and girls are not good at sports.
Stereotyping
Originally posted by Hopechest
It is not stereotyping in any way whatsoever.
Illegal immigrants pull more resources out of a society than they contribute. Legal immigrants do not.
With immigration reform, newly authorized immigrant workers would produce enough new consumer spending to support 750,000 to 900,000 jobs.
Every additional foreign-born student who graduates in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics (STEM) and remains in the U.S. creates an estimated 2.62 American jobs.
Every low-skilled, non-agricultural, temporary worker who comes to the U.S. to fill a job that may otherwise be left open creates an average of 4.64 U.S. jobs. These low-skilled jobs are the necessary backbone to support higher-skilled positions.
Passage of the DREAM Act would add $329 billion to the U.S. economy and create 1.4 million new jobs by 2030.
...
On average, immigrants, including the undocumented, pay nearly $1,800 more in taxes than they receive in benefits.
Households headed by undocumented immigrants paid $11.2 billion in state and local taxes in 2010. That included $1.2 billion in personal income taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $8.4 billion in sales taxes.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Hopechest
Originally posted by Hopechest
It is not stereotyping in any way whatsoever.
Illegal immigrants pull more resources out of a society than they contribute. Legal immigrants do not.
Any time you make a blanket statement like "this group" does "this", you are stereotyping. The truth is, many illegal immigrants actually contribute to society and the economy.
With immigration reform, newly authorized immigrant workers would produce enough new consumer spending to support 750,000 to 900,000 jobs.
Every additional foreign-born student who graduates in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics (STEM) and remains in the U.S. creates an estimated 2.62 American jobs.
Every low-skilled, non-agricultural, temporary worker who comes to the U.S. to fill a job that may otherwise be left open creates an average of 4.64 U.S. jobs. These low-skilled jobs are the necessary backbone to support higher-skilled positions.
Passage of the DREAM Act would add $329 billion to the U.S. economy and create 1.4 million new jobs by 2030.
...
On average, immigrants, including the undocumented, pay nearly $1,800 more in taxes than they receive in benefits.
Households headed by undocumented immigrants paid $11.2 billion in state and local taxes in 2010. That included $1.2 billion in personal income taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $8.4 billion in sales taxes.
Get the Facts
edit on 6/5/2013 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)
Illegal immigrants pay "sales, federal, and state income taxes". So do millions of welfare recipients. Are they good for the economy too?
Your fact sheet is leaving out the statistic that the majority of income earned is sent back to the country of origin.
Originally posted by 200Plus
I have to wonder how many of the champions of immigration have illegals for neighbors...........
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by 200Plus
Originally posted by 200Plus
I have to wonder how many of the champions of immigration have illegals for neighbors...........
I lived in Phoenix for 15 years and I've now lived in New Mexico for almost 15 years. I can't say if my neighbors in any of the places I've lived have been here illegally, but chances are, some were. In any case, I've certainly had my share of interaction and observations of them. And I'm speaking specifically of people from Mexico. Some were less than pleasant, while some were wonderful people who contributed to society and the economy and loved this country. Exactly like the people who were born here.