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Of course I've read the OT. No I haven't read all of the text you posted above for me, but I did skim through it and it's very flawed in my humble opinion.
Why would anyone have a problem with God repenting?
see this is a prime example of how we can talk and ponder such things of God the Father and/or Jesus and wrong or right be totally forgiven.
Originally posted by Sacgamer
Here is the puzzle, follow along to see if all the pieces fit.
I see the son as the light (John 8:12) of this world. The firstborn over all creation (Colossians 1:15), which means he must be the light in (Genesis 1:3).
Originally posted by Sacgamer
If you except that Christ is the "light" in Genesis, than the use of the word "OUR" when speaking of creating man in "OUR" image you can clearly see that God is talking with his son about making man in their image.
Originally posted by Sacgamer
If Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are one, then we could say that Jesus Christ is the spirit of love. The love that Christ showed man while on earth was a perfect reflection of God's love for us. Thus he and the father are one (John 10:30) and if you have seen me you have seen the father (14:7) for they are both spirit and spirit is love.
Originally posted by Sacgamer
If it was his father's spirit that was being sent then why would he say in my name? Now later it says in the end all things will be subject to the father even Christ (1 Corinthians 15:28).
So if the father and the son make up one Holy Spirit why is it sent in the name Christ Jesus and how could the Christ become subject to the father. Here is the final piece in the puzzle.
John 8:17-18
In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
John 14:15-18
15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
John 14:
23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
You do not admit to the blaspheme. You deny deny deny and do not express explain the denial and who or what that entails (like a secret hail mary un-uttered to the hidden choir in the vestible or the priest in the confessional). YOU THINK IT is all, so, whos listening? GOD; someone explain to me the difference between the holy spirit, god and Jesus/Mohammed/Budda, and Waste Management Corp?
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Because the flesh does not always align with the spirit. So rather than go against what is on the inside I prefer to control what is on the outside.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Attention sarcasm coming.
I think you are too smart for your own good and you think too much. Not intended as a direct insult, more of a backhanded compliment. Instead of thinking so much, quiet yourself and listen. Or not, you are the one who has the power to choose.
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
You do not admit to the blaspheme. You deny deny deny and do not express explain the denial and who or what that entails (like a secret hail mary un-uttered to the hidden choir in the vestible or the priest in the confessional). YOU THINK IT is all, so, whos listening? GOD; someone explain to me the difference between the holy spirit, god and Jesus/Mohammed/Budda, and Waste Management Corp?
Why do I get the feeling I forgot to do the dishes, and someone! will be VERY ANGRY lol
Sacgamer is right, you’re thinking way too much, you need to quiet your mind. I used to be just like yourself, driven completely by my ego, and thinking/believing that I knew the answers to some of life’s big questions or at least thought I knew, what was correct etc…The first words I ever read of Jesus, was where He stated that one must seek the truth, closely followed by him stating that He! was the truth!. That’s really where my journey began.I realized I had to “let go”, and “forget what I thought I knew”. In essence, to become like a child, and that that was the only way I could truly humbly seek. This is a lot harder than it sounds…because we are conditioned to think in the ways of the world, but the Father does not give, in the way the world gives…
Buda discovered that He was a Spiritual being, just like many other religions have done, but He knew nothing of Jesus, The Son of God. Although he may have encountered God through the Spirit, without knowing that it was really through Jesus…
Mohammed believed in the Prophets of the Old Testament, but just like the prophets before him, he was not perfect, and neither did he know the real truth of whom Jesus was/is, and the same can be said, of those who practice Judaism.
As for the differences between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I describe them here, in my last reply to Sacgamer. Men have been arguing/debating and trying to figure out that issue for over 2000 years… so you can consider this, to be your lucky day…
But the thing is, the questions you are asking myself and others, you really need to be re-asking yourself, and then go in search of those answers, because even if someone just gives you the truth, it will be of little use to you, unless you come to know it for yourself. Which ultimately means, that YOU must seek it for yourself, and experience it for yourself also.
Not everyone is ready to seek though, which is fine, because it’s just like the Buddhist texts states…
“when the student is ready, the teacher will appear”….
The Father and Jesus, being the true teachers… not me…- JC
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by vethumanbeing
If you can't beat the noisy chatter in your head, join it, take over it, and tell it where to go. I think this is how i did it over a knock down drag out fight between me and God, in which his love beat my ego. Other than to study the bible and do some good things because Christ said too, I can't really take credit, I think this is the part that is between you and the father. Jesus says only the father knows the day or time so we are back to patience and trust.It can feel like a never ending cycle of defeat for a while, but one day it will begin to make since, then you will "awaken" a new soul.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Why weigh yourself with such a heavy burden now? Why not start with things that are easier to control? You may find that you are conflicted because many of the things that you are doing that you are doing against love, you are actually doing in search of the "feeling" love. It is the "feeling" of love that we lose and then we pursue it with the flesh instead of the spirit.
Paul didn't say turn to page 10 and you stop sinning. He said I'm the one writing the bible and I haven't quite got this right. I know I am on the path and I know I can overcome sin, but still a little negative emotion comes to remind me I am not there yet.
Start doing the things you know you can do. You can control if you help someone else or not, feed the homeless, doing something nice for the family. Only do it not for yourself, nor even solely for them, do it because you are looking for love, and see if you find it.
You first have to become addicted to love, to give up the substitute that you hold so dearly. When spiritual love becomes your addiction, than you can begin to see how you have been deceived into believing a chemical addiction was the only source of love you could find.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Then you are more that ok, you are on the same path as me. Unless I am just crazy in which case I could use the company.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Oh YOU TURNCOAT. wearing red and white stripes instead of white stars on a blue background, wait a minute was your tailor Betsy Ross, with the help of Coco Channel?
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
(the inside outside coat to fool the percieved enemy) What makes you think that I have to TRY to in humanspeak ENGISH express what is on my mind.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I overthink? Its more of having a 360 degree vision of all arguement potencial answers and anticipating it.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I am the teacher to this human student (which happens to be me in the Flesh and Bone), do not think I dont know what I am doing.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Oh YOU TURNCOAT. wearing red and white stripes instead of white stars on a blue background, wait a minute was your tailor Betsy Ross, with the help of Coco Channel?
Joecroft
My Flag is a white Cross on a Blue background…haven’t we been through this already…
Funny how a descendant from Britain, is credited with creating the American Flag. Turncoat…Oh the irony lol
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I overthink? Its more of having a 360 degree vision of all arguement potencial answers and anticipating it.
Joecroft
I overthink”…nice of you to finally admit to something…Your really starting to open up…don’t stop now…your on a roll lolI if what you say is true, then you should be highly advanced in the art of prophylaxis…can you anticipate my next move…?
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I am the teacher to this human student (which happens to be me in the Flesh and Bone), do not think I dont know what I am doing.
Joecroft
I Am the greatest student that ever lived…and you are exhibit A lol- JC
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
What YOU ARE OF THE NORDIC CRAZES?
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Not the tall ones someone else in a another thread "I AM A HYBRID" was speaking of the ones that DO NOT SPEAK JUST STARE in amazement or confoundedness.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Not in the business of cleaning TartAr buildup, not a dentist. However I would recommend a deep cleansing of the teeth AND TONGUE once a year; that trip to the confessional should do the job nicely NO NOVACAINE BTW, got to take the Hail Mary's like a man.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Knocking again second time I will open the door. You are Greek.
Originally posted by Sacgamer
We are very close. To think that either of us knows for certain the exact relationship between the father and the son I think is probably thinking too much. We have both received an understanding that works both in our minds and with the truth. So I suggest the true relationship remains religion.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by vethumanbeing
"You" really seem to like to talk to "you"