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Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by newcovenant
On September 10, 2001 Donald Rumsfeld said the Pentagon was missing 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS in transactions.
No he did not - care to show exactly where he said that? It is not in the video....
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
reply to post by waypastvne
Just for you waypastvne...
Here is a video of 1st incident commander - Lieutenant Robert Medairos from the Arlington County police department, who was talking to the press at the Pentagon on 9/11..
Note how he says: "They said it was a plane, and I didn't see any pieces of a plane. and I couldn't believe a plane hit the building"
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
He clearly says "we cannot track 2.3 trillion dollars"
In this video Mr. Byrd said the DOD cannot account for 2.3 trillion dollars in one year!
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
He clearly says "we cannot track 2.3 trillion dollars"
In this video Mr. Byrd said the DOD cannot account for 2.3 trillion dollars in one year!
Once again, exactly where did he say the money was missing? What is so hard about showing us where he stated the money was missing?
It looks like the claim he said the money was missing is just another false statement made by "truthers"!
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
Cannot account for/cannot track = missing!
The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.
A DoD news document from April 2002 spelled this out even more clearly: In fiscal 1999, a defense audit found that about $2.3 trillion of balances, transactions and adjustments were inadequately documented. These "unsupported" transactions do not mean the department ultimately cannot account for them, she advised, but that tracking down needed documents would take a long time. Auditors, she said, might have to go to different computer systems, to different locations or access different databases to get information. www.defense.gov...
The report that uncovered the trillions appeared at the end of February 2000, before Bush had even been elected, and Rumsfeld and others had spoken about this before, on more than one occasion, and for months before the attacks: Pentagon's finances in disarray By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday. The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments. Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said. hv.greenspun.com...
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
reply to post by waypastvne
You're not very good at spotting people that are lying it seems!
Capt. Steve McCoy is full of BS, that is clear to see, there were many people either acting or on the payroll giving disinfo on 9/11. Aside from that, none of the others say they saw anything. Some even said there was no bodies inside!
Yet all you OS'ers claim there were bodies! I'm inclined to believe the genuine peope in the video that say there were no bodies inside.
So thanks for showing that video, it helped clarify that there were no bodies
Originally posted by hellobruce
Once again - exactly where did he say the money was missing - you seem unable to show us exactly where he said the money was missing.
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I heard they dumped some aircraft parts on the site just to make it look legitimate. I think I remember reading a helicopter was used. The NTSB which is the government agency that investigates aircraft disasters probably has tons of aircraft wreckage from previous accidents that they could have dumped at the pentagon.
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Even Donald Rumsfeld was suprised to hear that a plane struck the pentagon. A lieutenant colonel informed him and he accepted it. Why didn't ANYONE AT ALL see a plane hit the pentagon
Nobody at all saw a helicopter dropping airplane parts on the Pentagon grounds, either....
Who said it was a helicopter dropping the plane parts?!
Where did you pluck that from? Are you just saying that to make the planting of plane parts seem ridiculous?!
Think outside the box, there are many possible ways plane parts could have been planted!
Originally posted by waypastvne
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
reply to post by waypastvne
You're not very good at spotting people that are lying it seems!
Capt. Steve McCoy is full of BS, that is clear to see, there were many people either acting or on the payroll giving disinfo on 9/11. Aside from that, none of the others say they saw anything. Some even said there was no bodies inside!
Yet all you OS'ers claim there were bodies! I'm inclined to believe the genuine peope in the video that say there were no bodies inside.
So thanks for showing that video, it helped clarify that there were no bodies
Are you avoiding my question?
Can you put all of your evidence together and form a theory that doesn't make us laugh ?
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
Originally posted by waypastvne
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
reply to post by waypastvne
You're not very good at spotting people that are lying it seems!
Capt. Steve McCoy is full of BS, that is clear to see, there were many people either acting or on the payroll giving disinfo on 9/11. Aside from that, none of the others say they saw anything. Some even said there was no bodies inside!
Yet all you OS'ers claim there were bodies! I'm inclined to believe the genuine peope in the video that say there were no bodies inside.
So thanks for showing that video, it helped clarify that there were no bodies
Are you avoiding my question?
Can you put all of your evidence together and form a theory that doesn't make us laugh ?
It's not really a question is it, so why would I reply to your trolling?
When you come up with a relevant non-troll question I might take you seriously!
I've had better discussions with children!
Everyone will eventually know that al-Qaeda never existed, acted under the control of the US Government and acted on its own initiative but with the passive complicity of the US Government to hijack planes, not hijack planes and try but fail to hijack planes, that the US Government, a small rogue element within the US Government, and Mossad operating without the knowledge of the US Government crashed the planes into the towers under remote control, crashed different planes into the towers undeer remote control, didn't crash any planes into the towers but projected holograms of the planes crashing into the towers, and didn't crash or project anything but convinced everyone that planes hit the towers by showing it to them on TV, after which the towers were blown up by explosives that made lots of explosions that everybody heard, weakened by thermite silently which explains why nobody heard any explosions, blown up by nuclear weapons in the cellar which started collapses from the top, and turned entirely to dust by energy beams from space which is why there was no debris, and that the debris pile was then kept hot for months by thermite that hadn't reacted when it all reacted to bring the towers down, and all the steel that wasn't there was immediately taken to China which is why the steel recovered shows signs of explosives, melting and dustification, and a plane, a missile, a different plane and a hologram all crashed into the Pentagon except that it was only one of them, or pulled up at the last second and flew over the Pentagon, leaving a neat 12 foot hole that caused 90 feet of the bit of the wall that had recently been reinforced to collapse, and another plane was shot down at Shanksville then landed in Cleveland leaving no wreckage at Shanksville that was spread out over too large an area to be from a crash even though it didn't exist. That's what really happened, and some day everyone will figure out how obvious it all is.
Dave
Originally posted by DeeKlassified
***BREAKING NEWS***
Black box manufacturers have decided to make black boxes out of the same material that the 'hijackers' passports are made of, so if another 9/11 situation occurs, the black boxes will be found intact.
The report that uncovered the trillions appeared at the end of February 2000, before Bush had even been elected, and Rumsfeld and others had spoken about this before, on more than one occasion, and for months before the attacks: Pentagon's finances in disarray By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday. The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments. Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said. hv.greenspun.com...
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by waypastvne
Where did the wings hit the Pentagon ? The wings of the jets that hit the towers cut very heavy steel boxed beams all the way out to the tips of those wings . WHERE ARE THE MARKS MADE BY THE WINGS? Maybe you and your crew need to get together and think about that one . There should be at least a 100 foot wide hole in that building .