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reply to post by KingErik


bigfoots, don't forget bigfoots!

Originally posted by fishy6
Actually I think the entire birther issue was concocted as a red herring to obscure the obvious.

The man is a Socialist/fascist/communist plant, whichever of the ISM's you want to call him, but I even have my doubts he is really Obama/Barry Sorento.

I think he is a totally different person, a look alike subversive, or either he was groomed as a communist plant for the whitehouse to destroy democracy in America from the inside.

Well birther has its issues which he is getting around. Proven communist in the whitehouse trying to dismantle America from the inside is an entirely different story and if that had come out in full he never would have won/stolen the 2nd term.

Yep, there's some fishy stuff alright.

For instance:

Whoa! It's buried deep in an NYT profile of the Geithner-Obama relationship, but check this out:
Born two weeks apart in August 1961, the president and Mr. Geithner each spent childhood years in Asia because each had a parent working for the Ford Foundation on overseas development.
As I have reported many times, I suspect Geithner's father is/was high level CIA and used the Ford Foundation as cover to travel Asia.

What NYT fails to mention is that Geithner's father was in charge of microfinance in Asia for the Ford Foundation and the Obama's mother ran microfinance for the Ford Foundation in Indonesia. In other words, Geithner's father was the boss of Obama's mother. This is what I wrote in March. 2009:

Geithner's father and Obama's mother most certainly knew each other. According to Ian Wilhelm of the The Chronicle of Philanthropy, the Ford Foundation says, "they met at least once in Jakarta."

www.economicpolicyjournal.com...

As a frame of reference for all this, Geithner was appointed Sec Treasurer immediately after Obama was in office. Remember the sigh of relief when all the finance world knew they had their man in? Geithner had been in AIG before they needed a bailout and who gave the bailout to AIG? AIG specializes in Sharia-compliant loans(means usury-free I suspect and of course the taxpayers really had to do the bailout to pay for usury free loans) No wonder these people don't like the money-laundering provisions of the Patriot Act. Geithner is associated with Kissinger of course. And one last piece I just literally found out last night...Geithner is to be an attendee at this years Bilderberg meeting.
Dontcha love it

Oh heres a news piece on the AIG thing

Democrats and Republicans alike pummeled Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Wednesday over his role in the $180 billion bailout of insurance giant AIG Inc., venting public anger over Wall Street's return to prosperity while 10 percent of Americans are still jobless.

Geithner, one of the original architects of the government's 2008 response to the financial crisis as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, defended the use of taxpayer money as necessary to head off "potentially catastrophic damage to the economy."
But members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hammered away at why regulators allowed American International Group to pass on billions of the bailout money to big Wall Street banks that were business partners.

www.nbcnews.com...

This is why when Democrats talk of "deregulation" it means that they want their people in to "regulate" the theft of taxpayers money in high finance.

This is why I won't indulge people who say it's because of race that American patriots oppose this administrations policies.

and if it had come out in full? Really? So much of this stuff has been out in the open and he still got reelected. Jerome Corsi had his book, "Obamanation" out full well before the 08 election. I remember, I picked it up in the Phoenix airport at the end of June.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Second though? I have no question he's a legit U.S. Citizen by birth after Arizona demanded official certification to that fact in 2012 and received it to their satisfaction. Was the Kenyan actually his Father though? It changes nothing in legal status for Obama to serve ..and that's the point. It would be worth hiding though, if Daddy wasn't the sort the American Public would understand or see as a positive influence

As I have said, the communist Party encouraged women recruits to sleep around and Bo looks more like FMD, a card carrying communist, which is why they lilkely hid the connection with a phony front marriage to the Kenyan, because a card carrying communist was a connection a lot more damaging than a Kenyan foreign national. They had to get someone to go with the plan. Likely Obama Sr was willing in exchange for something, but they supposedly met in Russian language class.
Why was Bo left to hang around FMD in his youth while his supposed real dad was back in Kenya with his other wives?
These are all questions that came up and the media's response was that people who didn't support the first black Prez just had racial issues.
It's really laughable if it weren't true.

reply to post by DZAG Wright

Imagine the investigation for someone becoming PRESIDENT?

Maybe this is the real reason the judges won't hear any of the cases, and the couple who did referred to Wong Kim Ark like the good little G men they are. Did you see where I pointed out the connection of the Judge who wrote the opinion for Wong Kim Ark having been an appointee of Chester Arthur, the only other President to not be natural born...
oh and thanks for letting us know your ties to government. Helps me understand your focus.

reply to post by Spider879


Maybe they do when they change the mask they wear. I had a Russian dance instructor tell me that ex KGB Putin would charge people exhorbitant amounts of money for even a short interview.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by DZAG Wright

 

Imagine the investigation for someone becoming PRESIDENT?

Maybe this is the real reason the judges won't hear any of the cases, and the couple who did referred to Wong Kim Ark like the good little G men they are. Did you see where I pointed out the connection of the Judge who wrote the opinion for Wong Kim Ark having been an appointee of Chester Arthur, the only other President to not be natural born...
oh and thanks for letting us know your ties to government. Helps me understand your focus.

Well, to start with, judges have no standing to hear cases in regards to the President's eligibility to be in the office he is in right now. The one thing the judges DO have standing on is Obama's eligibility to be on a ballot in the state which the case is being brought in.

As far as the Ark and Arthur connection goes, the only thing that we have here is pure speculation. There's no way to prove you or anyone else right or wrong on this matter.

And without a legal definition of "natural born citizen", who are we to say that someone isnt natural born? Obama was born here, and the citizenship of his father is completely irrelevant.

Try to get him out because you dont like the job that he is doing, not because of a falsely backed witch hunt.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Chester Arthur, the only other President to not be natural born...

Chester Arthur was a natural born American citizen.

Chester Alan Arthur was born October 5, 1829, in Fairfield, Vermont.

His father, William Arthur, was born just outside the village of Cullybackey, County Antrim, Ireland, and emigrated to Dunham, Lower Canada (in present-day Quebec) in 1818 or 1819 after graduating from Belfast College.

Arthur's mother, Malvina Stone, was born in Vermont, the daughter of George Washington Stone and Judith Stevens.

(Source).

His political enemies spread rumours that he was born outside the USA in an attempt to convince people he was not a natural born American citizen. But they never had a problem with the fact that one of his parents was born outside the USA.

Unsurprisingly, the rumours were comprehensively refuted and rejected—just like the failure of the birthers' propaganda today.

reply to post by hellobruce


Of course you don't think so because it goes against the opinion of the Chester Arthur appointed judge on Wong Kim Ark. What's new?
But I said I won't indulge you, so goodbye

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
If Obama and his people put all that FOIA material on the White House site or another site with an equally high profile for everyone in America to go look at, at will, it would go a long way to killing much of this,

It may stop a few people, but to a lot of birthers it has nothing at all to do with any document Obama shows. It is that Obama is the President.

According to several published articles, the Obama birth certificate issues were originally started by Hillary back in the primaries. Funny how MSM has made the birther argument a right wing nutcase issue...

Google hillary and obama birth certificate...lots of stories out there by lots of different publications from both sides.

Originally posted by Zoyd23
According to several published articles, the Obama birth certificate issues were originally started by Hillary back in the primaries. Funny how MSM has made the birther argument a right wing nutcase issue...

Correction: the right wing nutcases have made the birther argument a right wing nutcase issue.

Everyone knows it was originally started by Hillary supporters; that's already been mentioned in this thread. But the birther issue has since been completely taken over by right wing nutcases.

Originally posted by rockoperawriter
reply to post by KingErik

 

bigfoots, don't forget bigfoots!

They have principled policy against using modern technology, they wouldn't get this internet message broadcast.

Perhaps we should put a loudspeaker in the woods.

Thank You

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Second though? I have no question he's a legit U.S. Citizen by birth after Arizona demanded official certification to that fact in 2012 and received it to their satisfaction. Was the Kenyan actually his Father though? It changes nothing in legal status for Obama to serve ..and that's the point. It would be worth hiding though, if Daddy wasn't the sort the American Public would understand or see as a positive influence

As I have said, the communist Party encouraged women recruits to sleep around and Bo looks more like FMD, a card carrying communist, which is why they lilkely hid the connection with a phony front marriage to the Kenyan, because a card carrying communist was a connection a lot more damaging than a Kenyan foreign national. They had to get someone to go with the plan. Likely Obama Sr was willing in exchange for something, but they supposedly met in Russian language class.
Why was Bo left to hang around FMD in his youth while his supposed real dad was back in Kenya with his other wives?
These are all questions that came up and the media's response was that people who didn't support the first black Prez just had racial issues.
It's really laughable if it weren't true.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

As I have said, the communist Party encouraged women recruits to sleep around

So...communism is in the DNA then?

This is news.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Of course you don't think so because it goes against the opinion of the Chester Arthur appointed judge

Again I ask you. Who else could have appointed the Judge?

Please let us know, and why was Chester Arthur allowed to appoint Judges?

Originally posted by Sankari

Originally posted by Zoyd23
According to several published articles, the Obama birth certificate issues were originally started by Hillary back in the primaries. Funny how MSM has made the birther argument a right wing nutcase issue...

Correction: the right wing nutcases have made the birther argument a right wing nutcase issue.

Everyone knows it was originally started by Hillary supporters; that's already been mentioned in this thread. But the birther issue has since been completely taken over by right wing nutcases.

Whatever happened to critical thinking? Statements like this depress the sh*t out of me because it's looking more all the time that the hive mentality is taking over and critical thinking is now whatever the consensus is within the hive. Doesn't anyone have the curiosity to examine anything on their own anymore??

I don't give a d@mn about right wing anything. I was always the kid that went up an poked things with a stick rather than hang back and wait for someone else to do it. That can invite trouble, yes, but I refuse to stand idly by while the Emperor prances down the street buck @ss naked. Compliment his clothes if you want to, I refuse...

Originally posted by CornShucker
Whatever happened to critical thinking?

Very good question - why are people still claiming that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery when they have not even actually seen it?

Not much critical thinking going on there at all!

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by KingErik

 

But, once you start suppressing the voices, you raise suspicions that perhaps there was some truth that could not be contested because it was in fact true.

So, let the Birthers give birth to their birthings, and let the debunkers debunk the bunk.

I agree completely there and I'll add a bit to that if you don't mind. I think the fact the White House has taken the approach of ridicule, dismissal and suppression by simply refusing to address it, is precisely what has given this thing legs that never get tired.

They released the majority of what people are demanding ..and still don't realize IS out in the public domain (in many cases) in 2010. They released it without much fanfare I assume, since even I missed that entirely and it wasn't until last year in my research that I found all of it. Much from FOIA requests.

Any chance of getting links to that info?

If Obama and his people put all that FOIA material on the White House site or another site with an equally high profile for everyone in America to go look at, at will, it would go a long way to killing much of this, IMO. It's the fact, as you note, it's treated like a 'topic which shall not be named' by the very people it's about that feeds the fire and keeps it burning.

Using the logic I was given earlier in this thread, how would those documents be valuable info when the other document that I got right off the whitehouse.gov file-server was "third-hand at best"?

Originally posted by CornShucker

Originally posted by Sankari

Originally posted by Zoyd23
According to several published articles, the Obama birth certificate issues were originally started by Hillary back in the primaries. Funny how MSM has made the birther argument a right wing nutcase issue...

Correction: the right wing nutcases have made the birther argument a right wing nutcase issue.

Everyone knows it was originally started by Hillary supporters; that's already been mentioned in this thread. But the birther issue has since been completely taken over by right wing nutcases.

Whatever happened to critical thinking? Statements like this depress the sh*t out of me because it's looking more all the time that the hive mentality is taking over and critical thinking is now whatever the consensus is within the hive. Doesn't anyone have the curiosity to examine anything on their own anymore??

Unfortunately 'hive mentality' is what the birthers do best, and 'critical thinking' is what they do worst. So you end up with a bunch of incompetent people in an echo chamber repeating each other's lies.

Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by CornShucker
Whatever happened to critical thinking?

Very good question - why are people still claiming that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery when they have not even actually seen it?

Not much critical thinking going on there at all!

Your circular logic is amazing... The man goes on TV and says, "Here it is. Time to get this distraction out of the way and get back to the business of the country." I looked at what he said to look at. So what is it that I haven't seen?

This is like p*ssing on a brick... I can see it ain't ever gonna soak in. I'm done.