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Update! The Latest On The Atacama Humanoid (Alien?)

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posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 01:48 PM
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Hmm... what if it is Alien but through tests, it shows human DNA? No I'm not saying the Aliens are 100% related to humans, I'm saying if there were aliens who did kidnap some humans for experimentation or whatever in the past, they might have eventually found a way to cloak their DNA with ours?

The reason I'm saying this is because if it is a Grey alien baby, it kinda makes sense i guess when looking at the size and it's discovered age? Meh it may or may not be the most logical to you guys, just throwing a theory out there for all to ponder with




posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 01:55 PM
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could it have had mitochondrial dwarfism? at the age of 6 it would have been very small and deformed.



posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 02:12 PM
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This is fascinating but we need to keep in mind there are a very small people who are well porpotioned for their size and age. like this little woman .. you can only imagine how tall she has been at 6 years old. She is now 18 years old

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posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by dollukka
you can only imagine how tall she has been at 6 years old. She is now 18 years old


Scanning around the net for her height at different ages, I find

Age, Height
19 = 1 ft 11 in
18 = 2' 0.73"
15 = 1 ft 11 in
14 = 1 ft 11 in


"When Jyoti was born, she seemed quite normal," her mother, Ranjana, 45, told the Sunday Mirror.

"We came to know about her disorder when she was five. We consulted a specialist and he said she will be this size all of her life. Read more: www.foxnews.com...


So yes I can imagine what she was like at about 6 years old.
The size she is now.



posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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I was just watching a documentary on world's smallest girl. Charlotte
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 02:46 PM
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Most recent data says "human". That recent finding is missing from your "interpretation friend. Why?

Basing it on studying YouTube while ignoring most recent developements and findings...and news annoucements of testing results of the last several months....invalidates your research methods, therefore, your conclusion...is flawed.

"The mummified remains of what looks like a 6-inch space alien has turned "Sirius" into the most eagerly awaited documentary among UFO enthusiasts.

The findings, however, might come as a disappointment.

In early publicity, filmmakers claimed the documentary would reveal that the DNA of the creature with an oversized alien-looking head couldn't be medically classified.

In fact, the film, which premiered Monday in Hollywood, features a scientist who concluded the little humanoid was human.

"I can say with absolute certainty that it is not a monkey. It is human -- closer to human than chimpanzees. It lived to the age of six to eight. Obviously, it was breathing, it was eating, it was metabolizing. It calls into question how big the thing might have been when it was born,"said Garry Nolan, director of stem cell biology at Stanford University's School of Medicine in California."

c/o www.thehuffingtonpost.com
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posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 04:31 PM
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okay...what's the update again?

you know, their method of determining age may have been thrown off because that human corpse was obviously "processed;" you know, like a shrunken head was "processed."

That is a shrunken human corpse which may still possibly turn out to be a fetus.

jmvho



posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 05:12 PM
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The exams of it showed internal structures including veins running through the bones, etc. Pretty hard to make in a model form.

That said, I think they'll find it was a fetus and the odd end-bones that they are interpreting as evidence of age were from the mummification process. How many mummified fetus' have people at Stanford examined? The DNA showing it was native to the region is human and the unsolved DNA is just that, unsolved, as in 'not sequenceable'; or damaged. You'll never be able to prove alien DNA until you have a verified alien to compare it to.



posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 06:11 PM
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People who are passionate about the truth and about what they are doing don't need donations and funds.......he's a fraud! IMHO



posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 06:42 PM
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The description reminds me of the Tamara Vasilievna Prosvirina story.
perdurabo10.tripod.com...

I had a hard time believing such a child would be able to live and eat. According to the persons involved it did not grow.


Aleshenka was a greyish creature about twenty-five centimeters (9.8 in) in length. Its hairless head had a number of dark spots. The eyes were large, occupying most of the face. It breathed through a small nose below the eyes.


en.wikipedia.org...

According to genetic experts at the Moscow Vavilov Institute of General Genetics, DNA analysis of the clothes Aleshenka was wrapped in revealed no evidence that "he" was extraterrestrial. On April 15, 2004, the scientists made an official statement that the "Kyshtym creature" was a premature female human infant, with severe deformities.[3]

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posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 07:03 PM
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How can they conclude its human? We have no alien dna to compate it with. Who's to say our dna and alien dna isnt 99% a match or more. We can assume that any change of dna of any degree would produce a different species. Imo until we fully understand our dna and what makes us human we cant rxactly say what constitutes being human.



posted on Jun, 3 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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I am skeptical on this. This looks like it was a living creature. The age of six could be correct but this is not human or alien. It looks more like a South American squirrel monkey that was altered as a baby just like the people in that region did to there own kids.Binding and altering there growth the way they want. They had surgically removed its tale and a few ribs when this poor thing was very young. Bound its legs to make them straight bound its feet and hands to stop them from growing large and bound its head to make it look the way it does. Someone took time and skill to make this monkey look like a small human. The DNA is 6% from ours that is what we might find from a primate. If they were hoaxing they could put the six year old body in a jar of human blood for a while to get the DNA to look more human.
Just my thoughts on it. Looks like some cruel attempt to make a monkey look like a small human.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 12:19 AM
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From the video:

1) They call it is as Atacama Humanoid (not Alien).
2) They say, it looks like an Alien (but not Alien).
3) They don't know what it is, yet.
4) There seems no form of Dwarfism whatsoever or any know syndrome or advanced stage of progeria at play. It looks like every bone structure is properly proportioned except for the head.
5) The head seems unique.
6) The body is perfectly symmetrical.
7) They say, it's a real specimen, not something artificial glued together though it seems very much so.
8) It has 9% (i.e.: 2 million base pairs) DNA unmatched to human DNA and 91% match.
9) Look at the color of the bones. It looks very much gold or bronze like. Is it quite normal?

Forget about Greer and consider the Ph.D. seen in the video, Garry P. Nolan. He has his own lab named after him at Stanford: "Nolan Lab". With the kind of publications he has, he is risking his academic life with this kind of fringe research. For what?

Most of them say it could be human mutation. If so, that is already a BIG news, something that cannot be tossed away. But, why there is no coverage from the media? Why no interest shown publicly by other academic institution?

Even if the result turns out to be human, then it not a case closed, but it only gets interesting. How this happened to a human being? What made it to happen? Why this happen? What are the factors involved in this to occur, etc.? If it turns out to be a human, it really opens a can of worms, but definitely not a case closed.

As one of the former congressman from the Disclosure panel said, "The audacity of media blackout on this event (Public Hearing on Disclosure) really sickens my mind". That seems to be true here as well. Now, that's what the most intriguing part.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 02:16 AM
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@OP,

This is old news, and was reported about a month ago. Some legit Stanford scientists did the analysis. There's been a thread to this effect at ATS (don't remember the link). If Project Sirius is still making videos about it, then PS is just trying to squeeze some more money out of it.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:48 AM
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That is a shrunken human corpse which may still possibly turn out to be a fetus.



I don't get you guys...what do your eyes tell you?

does it really look like a fetus? does it look like a human to you...having seen the head, length of arms and legs ratio? does it appear deformed?

Why would everything but the head be shrunk ? If it was born deformed...would the body be able to support such a large head when compared to the body ? the entire body probably weighs as much as the head itself. That's no earthly ratio...wouldn't the gravity be too much to bare for the body?... (unless the head was...err...empty of contents while it was alive).

Anyway...the thing that is encouraging here, that it is confirmed as some kind of being...that it was alive and had a fully functional body system. It is not a HOAX.

Is it an alien...I don't know...but sure as hell isn't human...at least no human like me and you, and no amount of need-to-think-of-some deformities, progerias and dwarfism will make this thing the way it is...so out of place...yet it appears that it was fully functional being at one point.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:05 AM
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my point exactly.

from your link :




The body of Aleshenka (the diminutive name she gave to the creature) was plump and was swaying like jelly. The skin on the body was gray and with dark spots in brown on the head. No hair, small holes instead of ears. Small flat nose enabled the creature to breath. Dark-gray eyes. No eye-lids. The vertical pupils of the eyes were constantly narrowing and expanding. Long fingers had small sharp claws. No genitals revealing creature's sex. The creature had no navel which all mammals have.


Any "normal" observer would think...wow...an exact description of the traditional Alien gray.

"ah...the DNA resembles human..therefore...it is human". If it looked like an elephant with a trunk, and large ears...but with the similar DNA to a human (after all, many animal species have similar DNA to humans up to a degree)...they would say it's a heavily deformed human.


Thanks for the link about Aleshenka...never red that story before.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:06 AM
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At least people know who he is outside of a conspiracy theorists forum, for people that have never believed a single one.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:15 AM
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I'm sorry but you could quote 7,000,000,000% positive reports and the fact that FRAUD Stephen Greer is involved just makes it a huge farce....

So lets just say Greer finds out its 100% real and a genuine Alien, do you really think he would wait on a cheap old PTV film to come out, hell no, cash symbols would be flooding in front of him with such a massive cash cow, that would make him untold riches.

But no, he's sitting waiting on the film to announce his massive find...

OR

He's sitting waiting for the film because he knows this is just all smoke and mirrors and its not worth a cent..

Wake me up when this load of old tosh has gone..
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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by wildtimes

Huh!!


Looks legit to me - I know how Greer is discredited, but I'm not convinced he's a fraud at all.



And there lies your downfall, Greer is a PROVEN fraud..Or would you like to speen a lot of cash to go on one of UFO / Alien jaunts where he summons Aliens who JUST HAPPEN to look exactly like MOTHS to appear, the fact the aliens come to BRIGHT LIGHTS should not be considered moth like in any way!!

Greer makes those people who do the cup and ball scam on the streets look like pillars of the community!
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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:35 AM
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Greer is a PROVEN fraud


Like so many debunkers...you fail to see the point. The being is confirmed as real and it was alive at some point, by others...not just Greer. The "thing" is not a HOAX. It is out of his hands now, as far as this thing being confirmed for what it is. Even he knows that his word on it means jack sheet in today's scientific circles.

will he make a profit on this ?...of course he will....but that does not necessarily mean anything.



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