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How Many Officers Does it Take to Beat a Woman Senseless?

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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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2

While she calls 9/11 at the same time.



And of course the answer is always to charge the victim with assault.

www.kirotv.com...
FEDERAL WAY, Wash. — Federal Way Police are reviewing their use of force during a recent arrest in which a woman diagnosed with cognitive and hearing disabilities was punched several times , while being restrained. Police, in turn, are recommending the woman be charged with felony assault to an officer.


"I understood that he saw me using a cell phone," said Graham. "I told the officer I was going to carry my dog thirty feet to a friend's apartment. I told him, hey, you can walk with me," she said.

Graham says because the officer was speaking to her from his running car, she never heard his order to get back into her car. When the officer lunged and grabbed her wrist, she felt she was being attacked.

"I pulled my arm back, grabbed my phone and called 911 to call for help," she said. I told the officer I had mental and hearing disabilities, and didn't understand why he was trying to hurt me."


And the witness:


"That woman was not resisting, I saw it," said Graham's friend Deborah Fenwick, who saw the takedown. "That woman doesn't have a violent bone in her body. She's got a heart of gold. If she would have understood the officer's commands in the first place, she would have absolutely complied with him," Fenwick said.


So is there more to the story? There always is. On both sides of course. But...My question is if this beating was absolutely necessary? This does not look like a case of taking control of a situation, this is beating a woman senseless by 2 cops. The only to deliver blows like this is if she is already on the ground.

The picture speaks volumes IMO. And one other thing...what guilty party calls for help from 911?
Luckily for Graham, the attack on her was caught on the 911 recording.


"I told the officer I had mental and hearing disabilities, and didn’t understand why he was trying to hurt me.”

“I was hoping other officers would show up to listen and deescalate the situation,” Graham said.

In the 911 recording, Graham shouts at the officer: “You attacked me before you said anything! There is no point whatsoever for you to touch me like that, especially with my condition, so how dare you even touch me?”

The officer is clearly heard repeating “You are under arrest.”

During the 911 call, another responding officer punched Graham several times in the face, and is heard loudly ordering her repeatedly to stop resisting.

“I am not resisting,” replied Graham. Graham says when an officer put his weight on her hip, which she says was previously injured, she reacted by trying to flip over. Federal Way police said she assaulted an officer during that struggle.


I can't imagine calling for help from the same people beating me senseless.

Peace

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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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I'm not even surprised when I hear these stories anymore.

Are the police just completely insane, unable to make proper judgement calls or is this all done to get people used to police brutality for the eventual police state?


Graham says because the officer was speaking to her from his running car, she never heard his order to get back into her car. When the officer lunged and grabbed her wrist, she felt she was being attacked. Link


Before lunging at her, why couldn't he just repeat himself to make sure she understood? It's like some police officers WANT to use excessive force, even before trying to understand the situation.

Anyways, when the woman said that she had mental and hearing disabilities, that should of been a queue for the officer to maybe be a little more gentle...
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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Dominar
I'm not even surprised when I hear these stories anymore.

Are the police just completely insane, unable to make proper judgement calls or is this all done to get people used to police brutality for the eventual police state?


All the above and just add in a regular steroid regime as well. Throw in some guns and the fact that police don't seem to be getting punished anymore...Boom.

Welcome to the New World Order.

Peace



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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I entered this thread to make a sarcastic remark about the title...
...because it sounds like a joke.

Instead, I'm just going to take my disgust and leave.
People make me sick.



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:00 PM
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I'm not supprised it takes more then one cop to beat a woman:
I have seen single women seriously drop a single cop ( also just much bigger men ) on more then one occasion.
fairer not weaker
I hope she gets a good female lawyer



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:07 PM
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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:10 PM
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My old mantra continues...."To serve and protect?" naw. "Law Enforcement". These people now serve the establishment. Not the people.



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Glass
Not defending the officer(s) in question, but police do deal with a lot of crap on a regular basis. The solution? Perhaps a healthy dose of a certain plant, off duty of course.


And maybe a few more being brought up on charges, prosecuted and taken off the force. All in the public eye.

If they knew that consequences were waiting with no special treatment, many might think twice before raising a fist or a gun.

Peace



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:11 PM
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How many more times will this happen?

Just absurd. I feel like half these ppl shouldn't be cops, they can't seem to contain themselves from using violent force. Like it gets them off, especially if you squirm while they beat you.

How many more?

No threat of consequence for the cops.
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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Glass
Not defending the officer(s) in question, but police do deal with a lot of crap on a regular basis. The solution? Perhaps a healthy dose of a certain plant, off duty of course.
Lets think about this, though. Lets take a waiter, for example. They take a lot of crap, all the time. They are treated poorly, paid poorly, verbally abused. etc/ Yet, if they publicly spit in the next rude person's food, not only would they be fired, theyd likely be brought up on charges.

Putting up with a lot of crap is no excuse for excessive force.



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by Glass
Not defending the officer(s) in question, but police do deal with a lot of crap on a regular basis. The solution? Perhaps a healthy dose of a certain plant, off duty of course.


And maybe a few more being brought up on charges, prosecuted and taken off the force. All in the public eye.

If they knew that consequences were waiting with no special treatment, many might think twice before raising a fist or a gun.

Peace


Yes, absolutely, this needs to happen. With press coverage greater than the Boston incident. A nice long "unpaid vacation" might do these officers some good.
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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:13 PM
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It's sad that this is the result of just a small misunderstanding.

Perhaps if we were better at communicating, both the police and the citizens, we wouldn't have this problem.



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:15 PM
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I don't make excuses for people such as this. I merely look at the probable causes and prescribe proactive, though somewhat controversial solutions.
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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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Woman's perspective:


"I understood that he saw me using a cell phone," said Graham. "I told the officer I was going to carry my dog thirty feet to a friend's apartment. I told him, hey, you can walk with me," she said.


...the officer was speaking to her from his running car, she never heard his order to get back into her car.


"I am not resisting," replied Graham. Graham says when an officer put his weight on her hip, which she says was previously injured, she reacted by trying to flip over.


Officers narrative:


"As the officer approached, Graham squared off against him in a fighter's stance and attempted to strike him with closed fists. (The officer) responded with closed fist strikes to Graham's face which brought her to the ground where she was handcuffed,"


There definitely seems to be some discrepancies between the woman's statement and the officer's... I wish there was video of this.



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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Having watched our police kettling the general public using their right to peaceful protest where a large officer deliberately hit a small woman, also seeing officers hit a man and kill him though he was nothing to do with the protest they were 'policing', this is not the image of the British Copper.

I actually feel that the police have been given - because of the lack of punishment they receive for their brutality caught on camera- a quiet nod from the establishment because this behaviour is deemed to frighten people off from the streets and from protests etc, thereby making it easy to control the public and shut them up.

Many people assume the Police are 'public servants', they are not anymore. The job of protecting the public has long gone now its about protecting the establishment, arresting as many people as they can in a day in order to grab their DNA and they are career conscious. They use to be a solid part of our community but today they don't even mix.



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dominar
Woman's perspective:


"I understood that he saw me using a cell phone," said Graham. "I told the officer I was going to carry my dog thirty feet to a friend's apartment. I told him, hey, you can walk with me," she said.


...the officer was speaking to her from his running car, she never heard his order to get back into her car.


"I am not resisting," replied Graham. Graham says when an officer put his weight on her hip, which she says was previously injured, she reacted by trying to flip over.


Officers narrative:


"As the officer approached, Graham squared off against him in a fighter's stance and attempted to strike him with closed fists. (The officer) responded with closed fist strikes to Graham's face which brought her to the ground where she was handcuffed,"


There definitely seems to be some discrepancies between the woman's statement and the officer's... I wish there was video of this.


Absolutely. A vid would help in this case because the cops will most likely be let off with a judge stating that excessive force was justified. As in so many cases...unless the victim can produce video. And even then...

But we also have the witness saying that the woman was not threatening in any way. But of course her testimony won't be taken seriously. She's just a lowly citizen and can't be trusted to tell the truth. Only the cops in these situations are always telling the truth.


Peace



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
It's sad that this is the result of just a small misunderstanding.

Perhaps if we were better at communicating, both the police and the citizens, we wouldn't have this problem.


I don't believe the cops are interested in any way but their own. It's actually been seen many times where cops go insane on a citizen for looking the wrong way.

If they aren't getting punished for these instances, isn't it the same as giving permission?

Peace



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
All the above and just add in a regular steroid regime as well. Throw in some guns and the fact that police don't seem to be getting punished anymore...Boom.

Welcome to the New World Order.

Peace

Do you have any proof they aren't getting punished?

Ever noticed how there are never follow up stories to these types of stories?
Because in the vast majority of cases like this, they are punished! and this lady will get paid big time!
You never hear about the ending of the story because it just isn't outrageous, and wouldn't fulfill the narrative trying to be created!

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posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 05:53 PM
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Police brutality seems to be becoming the norm.



posted on Jun, 2 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
It's sad that this is the result of just a small misunderstanding.

Perhaps if we were better at communicating, both the police and the citizens, we wouldn't have this problem.


I don't believe the cops are interested in any way but their own. It's actually been seen many times where cops go insane on a citizen for looking the wrong way.

If they aren't getting punished for these instances, isn't it the same as giving permission?

Peace


I know these sorts of incidents do not give LEO's a good reputation. It's despicable what happens out there.

But it's my opinion that these cases are rarer than we think. There are tons of bad cops out there, but many more "good cops".

You know....one bad apple ruins the batch.





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