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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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Dear curious ones: do you not realize that a soul is much more than its current Earthly life? Do you not know that we all were once dabblers in Black Magic, teachers/professors at a university, rapists, murderers, liars, deceivers, manipulators, evil agents (albeit unconscious ones in most cases), politicians, lawyers, doctors, witches, priests, agnostics, atheists, Muslims, Christians, Jews, heretics, inquisitors,..., in previous lives?


Prove it.


If I were a Nobel laureate, dear reader, would this enchant your faintly developed mind sufficiently to be content with my message?


That’s just cheeky by the way (and more than a tad arrogant). What happened to keeping the ego in check? Yours is positively bursting through your seams.


Do you believe the message is only worth listening to, once you have established me worthy of speaking?

Yes....or else I’ll simply believe you are regurgitating the Israel Regardie book I read last week.


a wise man can always learn from an idiot, but an idiot never learns from a wise man.


And now you quote a German aristocrat? Admit it – you’re a Blavatsky fan.


Ponder on those words, dear reader, and remember them the next time you wish to excise your brain excrement onto these pages.


You are so sneering and scathing. I thought you advocated control of the ego? Physician heal thyself.


Let me tell you something, dear reader: 90% of all of human 'knowledge' (that which is obtainable in the bulk of your media outlets, libraries, book stores, etc) is based on your faithfulness and glamorization of the cult of:

*Personality
*Appearances
*Speculation.


Bull #....I want credentials and life experience. I don’t care for your personality or your appearance. You must be having a ball typing this mince and actually getting readers to lap you up. Thankfully I have faith in the ATS community to expose you for the charlatan you most obviously are.


But please, do not take my word for it. Continue following your cult leaders in the public domain. Their 'message' is loud and clear on the radio and television waves you constantly, addictively consume.
Sooner or later, in this life or another, you will recognize the follies of your incessant and self-defeating, lustful curiosity for the lives of others.


Puuuleeease....this is ATS - it is anti msm and anti cult of personality


oh, if only you knew, dear reader. Members of my brotherhood refuse to incarnate in this primitive society and assist you in your evolution,


You mean...like me....your brotherhood won’t have a tv in the house?


Let me repeat this for you: Pay attention to my message, my words. Paying attention to anything else (during our time together), betrays only your own failures and impotencies in this present life,


Patronising and giving away your superiority complex.....again.


If I hadn't so much bad sowing to account for, I too would have avoided this task, dear reader.


Now you're just getting carried away with the attention you’re getting – enjoy it while you can – it will be short lived.


For so many other beautiful and well-developed souls in this forum (in particular, this thread), who have demonstrated genuine insightfulness and a yearning for attraction (love) and a disdain for repulsion (hate), I will be answering your questions thoroughly in the coming few days. Your patience is much appreciated.


What you mean is anyone who swallows your bull unquestioningly you will be more than happy to string along.

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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:07 PM
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Like initiate says ... it does not matter who he is ... because you don't have to read his thread ... he isn't forcing anyone to do anything or believe anything ...

I don't understand why people are trying to discredit him ... because it doesn't actually matter ... if you don't believe or want to listen to what he says you have the free will to do so.

I have always felt that if i listen to everything people have to say .. the truth will somehow make itself known through what my brain likes to accept and what it does not ... i trust my mind/consciousness can tell the difference.

keep it up initiate
some people are "normal" enough to at least hear you out and make their own decisions based of the end product of your time here ... the others have been bogged down so completely by this world that they actually believe everything the very establishment they claim to despise is spewing to them without critical thought.

what you are saying ties into alot of ancient religions and alot of other esoteric knowledge i have learned over the years. So for now i am on track with you



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:08 PM
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The true, real hell, is on Earth. One of my very high level brothers once mused: "Earth; such a cold hell!"


That must be a british hell....cos I've been to many places on this globe that are hotter than hell.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:11 PM
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Ach - he's talking mince and leading some of the more vulnerable members of this forum up the garden path. It does matter - minds at their most fragile are at their most easily influenced. Cartloads of common sense are required when digesting this thread - bearing in mind it is posted in the 'gray area'.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by King Loki
 


Ach - he's talking mince and leading some of the more vulnerable members of this forum up the garden path. It does matter - minds at their most fragile are at their most easily influenced. Cartloads of common sense are required when digesting this thread - bearing in mind it is posted in the 'gray area'.
this is proving to be fertile grounds for this kind of thing.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:24 PM
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What is 'this'?



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:40 PM
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When a wise man is trying to help or explain few things, he will never use differences in persons, that is, he wont use "Me" "You" "I" "They", those words create a position, they put anything in different places.
(Not that good in English, sorry )

I have a question for Initiate.

For example, lets pretend that there is someone who feels the "cosmos" different as you, completely different.
What the individual knows is not possible to tell or describe, the world outside human nature has no time, no bad or evil, no light or dark, no empathy, no love or hate.
That world runs perfectly smooth, but can you answer me how? What is that world?



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by christina-66
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What is 'this'?


'this' is a Java script keyword

www.quirksmode.org...


In JavaScript this always refers to the “owner” of the function we're executing, or rather, to the object that a function is a method of. When we define our faithful function doSomething() in a page, its owner is the page, or rather, the window object (or global object) of JavaScript. An onclick property, though, is owned by the HTML element it belongs to.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:47 PM
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cristina, my friend, what harm do you think he is possibly doing? At the very least he may lead some friends to find some truth. Not that I needed to be told but I think our culture began decaying a long time ago though I've only been around to witness it for a few decades. The message is pretty positive if you get past some remarks he may be making to those that are becoming so defensive to what he says.

And even though he very well could be taking a lot of stuff from books he read, those are the type of books I enjoy reading. That's why I am here. I just got done reading Not In His Image by John Lash, and this thread following up on some points derived from some ancient texts quoted in it.

Why are you here? Are you trying to save others weak and feeble minds by telling them who and what they should believe? Nothing but love but if the people would go that are wasting their time trying to discredit the person, there would be less replies and less clutter to sift through.

AWA



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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by King Loki
 


Ach - he's talking mince and leading some of the more vulnerable members of this forum up the garden path. It does matter - minds at their most fragile are at their most easily influenced. Cartloads of common sense are required when digesting this thread - bearing in mind it is posted in the 'gray area'.



So if he is leading us down the garden path .. please my friend ... enlighten me to the real path ??? oh you cant do that ... oh I see, so how is what you're saying any different to what he is saying ... you are trying to lead minds in a different direction.

It is not your place to be defending people or telling people what kind of information they should allow in and what they shouldn't ... thats exactly what the establishment does and why this site (ATS) was created.

If you dont like or believe what he has to say ... don't enter the thread ... simple, If you think its ur place to try and tell people what they should and shouldnt be listening to you are just as bad as the main stream media ... straight out

Your insinuating that members are stupid for listening to someone you don't agree with ... prey tell what makes you so spiritually advanced that we should be taking your advice over anyone we please to take advice from ...
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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:51 PM
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Ask a stupid question......



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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No I do not have a different path...no-one does...we are all individuals with our own individual paths.

But the op is obviously a Blavatsky fan - and she talks mince too . I would advise you to read her books but I threw the book, that was purportedly her raison d'etre, off the wall at least four times when I was reading it.

Be wary of any individual who tells you they have the answers to everything......it's patently not true.

Make your own way in life - do not follow the path of ANY self professed guru.

Anyone who professes themselves a guru - as the op has done - obviously isn't.

This thread is a confidence trick and an indulgence of the op';s ego and imagination.....not to be taken seriously BY ANYONE.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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Google is a more realistic oracle than what the Initiate claims to be.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by King Loki
 


No I do not have a different path...no-one does...we are all individuals with our own individual paths.

But the op is obviously a Blavatsky fan - and she talks mince too . I would advise you to read her books but I threw the book, that was purportedly her raison d'etre, off the wall at least four times when I was reading it.

Be wary of any individual who tells you they have the answers to everything......it's patently not true.

Make your own way in life - do not follow the path of ANY self professed guru.

Anyone who professes themselves a guru - as the op has done - obviously isn't.

This thread is a confidence trick and an indulgence of the op';s ego and imagination.....not to be taken seriously BY ANYONE.


You contradict yourself many times my friend ... you say make your own way in life, then continue to tell people not to listen to this guy ... that is making your way through life not theirs ... how do you not understand this ??

it's a very simple concept that you are finding very difficult to grasp ... then you tell us we should listen to you when you cant even understand basic concepts and constantly contradict yourself ...

let people do/believe what they want ... it is not for you to tell them anything ... By your very OWN ADVICE that is YOUR PATH, not theirs
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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:05 PM
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by snc24

Question: What is the best way to know the origin of everything, man's creation, big bang theory, etc without derailing from actual scientific data?



A very important question, snc24, thank you.

Your answer is surprisingly simple, from a spiritual point of view, because it doesn't disagree with "scientific data" at all.

If it were to disagree with objective scientific data, (note the word: objective, which science very rarely is; but rather a body of temporary hypotheses and faulty, imperfect technological manifestations) then it is necessarily a pseudo-spirituality (a misleading type of spirituality). If there is a disagreement with traditional, vigorous, non-dogmatic, critical science bereft of ulterior agendas, then a red flag should arise and you should immediately question the issue.

Why is this so? Allow me to explain in a logical fashion:

Our cosmos consists of (as previously asserted) 91 dimensions, 7 of which are physical. Because the higher 84 dimensions enclose and 'envelope' the lower physical dimensions, you cannot logically have a contradiction between science (which examines the physical world [thus far up to dimension 4]; it cannot ever examine higher worlds, because of the simple reason that its apparatuses of inquiry are themselves densely physical. Seem like a cop-out? Ask yourself why over 96 percent of the cosmos is unaccounted for [dark matter and dark energy]) and spirituality, because the 'spirit' aspect to this cosmos envelopes the physical aspect of this cosmos. Thus, if the science is correct (and not erroneously fragmented, as it largely is today, thanks to the all-pervasive deterioration of modern-day so-called 'science') it must necessarily be in agreement with the spiritual aspect, as they both are a part of the whole (I don't mean this philosophically; I mean this literally).

Now, in my order, we do not speak this vaguely and we avoid terms such as 'spirit.' Please note this. The entire cosmos is material. The highest cosmic world is just as material as the lowest physical world. There is no such thing as a 'vacuum' in our cosmos. There is also no such thing as a dichotomy between matter and spirit. They are one and the same. (This would lead to a very long discussion, which I shall not embark on now, out of respect to the user's question).

When the primitive instruments of science attempt to investigate the atom and marvel at all the 'nothingness' therein, they do not suspect that it's actually filled with matter! To you, the reader, I could call this 'spirit' matter.

But this is a vague terminology, and if the more scientifically inclined soul wishes for greater precision, I shall gladly provide it.

There is only one true doctrine of spirituality and that is genuine spirituality itself. The trouble is, much fiction and illusion is given out as 'spirituality,' and it unfortunately lures individuals who are attracted to emotional illusions and mental fictions. What I mean by this is, the illusory thought forms in your emotional envelope, and the fictional thought forms in your mental envelope, attract similar illusory and fictitious 'vibrations' permeating the worlds of man. You've heard of "like attracts like," yes? This principle holds true here.

What I mean by this is, you become attracted to false gurus, false saviors, false prophets, false sages, false leaders and false scientists.

This is why I warn you, dear reader: Be very wary of what you allow to fester within your emotional and mental bodies (envelopes). It is a sacred realm, which you are ultimately responsible for. Question everything, believe nothing.

But, question intelligently and show due diligence and care, when refusing to ponder on a foreign issue as a temporary working hypothesis.

Science has failed miserably in this arena thus far (which is a partial explanation as to why mankind has failed to develop anything revolutionary in science since quantum mechanics almost a century ago -- that's nearly a hundred years of groping in the dark! Ponder on that, dear reader! There are other reasons, of course, but I shall not discuss this for the moment, unless it is asked of me, of course).

In general, dear readers, I encourage you to handle my material with care, and if it resonates with you, use it as a temporary 'working hypothesis,' until you feel that something superior has been discovered by you. The superiority of this new 'discovery' should provide greater explanatory power, greater overall precision and depth in your everyday understanding of the reality you experience and inhabit. Ponder on this.

In any case, I can respond to your queries about the "origin of everything, man's creation, big bang theory..." in a separate post, if you so desire.

In fact, I will do so, when a few other questions have been answered.

I hope this provides some fertile grounds for you to make new discoveries, my dear brother.

Be well.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:08 PM
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Nothing but love but if the people would go that are wasting their time trying to discredit the person, there would be less replies and less clutter to sift through.


Incomprehensible twaddle. Do not profess to be a guru - when you are not one (re the op). If you are relying on recently read books (which they obviously are) give credit where credit is due and do not claim to be some insightful member of some opposition to the illuminati (that alone has me roflmao)

I have read an arrogant egotist's ramblings demean and discredit most people on this planet in this thread....and that's only in this thread so far.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:12 PM
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Oh for christ's sake - go read some helena blavatsky. I get the feeling her crock - which inspired nazi germany - will hold some sway with you.

I'm not a kiddie winkie - I'm old enough to know better - and I hope you are too.



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posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by christina-66
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Nothing but love but if the people would go that are wasting their time trying to discredit the person, there would be less replies and less clutter to sift through.


Incomprehensible twaddle. Do not profess to be a guru - when you are not one (re the op). If you are relying on recently read books (which they obviously are) give credit where credit is due and do not claim to be some insightful member of some opposition to the illuminati (that alone has me roflmao)

I have read an arrogant egotist's ramblings demean and discredit most people on this planet in this thread....and that's only in this thread so far.


I think you've more than made your point this person is discredited don't read it. Now why not take your own advice and don't read it and move on to another thread.



posted on Jun, 4 2013 @ 06:18 PM
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I'll tell you why - because ATS is read by many more people than the contributing members - and I don't want them thinking this community is full of gullible fools. It's called talking to the gallery - not talking to you. Don't take it personally.



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