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Originally posted by inval
reply to post by burntheships
Ok, I'm not saying I don't appreciate you looking at the wiki and seeing the similarities in his post. However, even if this guy does turn out to be full of it, and sent to the hoax been, does it really matter how many flags and stars he gets before it happens?
The fact is, even in conversations like this, where the guy may or may not have any thing of value to give us
Originally posted by burntheships
No, it only serves to provide a small sense of legitimacy at first glance, when
in fact there is really none. Its a layer of deception.
By all means, I will be here, as in the hundred times before. After all,
school is out for the summer, I am sure we will be seeing dozens of these threads
Originally posted by TheRedneck
The off topic posts in this thread will cease now. The topic is not who the poster is. The topic is "A *NEW* Window of Opportunity: Ask, and ye shall receive."
This is the Grey Area forum. No evidence is required for assertions by the OP. If you don't like the thread, please find another one to participate in.
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Originally posted by inval
At least they are more interesting to read then the 100s of 2012 threads that came and went.
Gnosis is not primarily rational knowledge. The Greek language distinguishes between scientific or reflective knowledge ("He knows mathematics") and knowing through observation or experience ("He knows me") which is gnosis. As the gnostics use the term, we could translate it as "insight," for gnosis involves an intuitive process.... (Elaine Pagels, THE GNOSTIC GOSPELS, New York: Random House, 1979.)www.thepearl.org...
Originally posted by Initiate
Dear readers of ATS:
Some of you, unfortunately, are a little impatient, and I understand this. Some of you (understandably), are thinking "this is all new-age/non-scientific nonsense..."
I will brave a few remarks on this, before I proceed to complete this session by completing my response to user: Kgnow.
You might be very interested and fascinated to learn, that science and spirituality are not in the slightest incompatible with each other. It is a fiction and illusion (another tool in the vast tool kit of your 'masters,' let's just say) to create doubt in your minds, by making you think that the pathway to spirituality leads to a destiny not all that different from conventional religion, which leads us back into the dark ages.
How well I understand this sentiment, which is why, I will briefly address this, before going back to my strictly adhered to policy: chronological answering of questions asked.
Let's briefly discuss some things.
Firstly, science was not 'created' be scientists (or sophists/logicians/etc). It was created by (surprise, surprise!) esotericians of various orders (gnosticians/old-rosicrucians/old-masons/alchemists...)
Don't believe me? Why don't you investigate the life and times of Francis Bacon? While he certainly wasn't the first scientist (far from it), he certainly introduced the scientific method (observation-hypothesis-experiment-theory) to Europe, after it had drowned in the follies of the Dark Ages. It was (as a highly evolved soul), one of his voluntary tasks, while incarnated on Earth, to re-institute (yes, re-institute, science existed already with the old Pythagoreans thousands of years prior and even millions of years before that with the Atlanteans!) the scientific method in Europe.
In conventional history (mostly fairy tales and wives tales/gossip; don't believe me? Study the historiographic method, and learn how UNscientific conventional historical practices are. I have written several history papers myself at University, whilst an undergrad. I know the erroneous and primitive methods used by historians to establish the so-called muse of 'history' in your fairy tales of 'learning.') it is believed that the scientific method was a new and revolutionary insight to combat religious over-saturation and mental and emotional slavery by the Christian Church. This is only partially true.
The individuals who saved Europe were not scientists. They were the Old-Rosicrucians from the 14th Century onwards, established by the Bacons, along with the Old-Masonic (don't compare modern Masonry with old-Masonry, please. That would be an abomination) and Old-Gnostic orders. These were 'free-thinking' societies, established for and by the intellectual elite (beyond the mental level of some of the individuals in this forum, thinking they are clever and informed, because they follow conventional science, which isn't even what science is supposed to be: A place for free-thinking intellectuals, rather than a dogmatic, institutionalized slave-house!)
When I read people's posts, the authors of which are perhaps well-meaning but perversely misinformed, claiming superiority/reverence/knowledge in a field (like science) they don't even understand, I feel pity and sorrow, and I can only hope that you criticasters would cease your intellectual laziness and do some proper research as to our (humanity's) true history and legacy!
Originally posted by bottleslingguy