Originally posted by windword
I would agree with, if we lived in a perfect world. But, as long as we have religious zealots trying to force their viewpoints into our courts,
schools, legislative bodies and doctors' offices, as per their religious mandates to convert and rule, we will never be able to have that civil
discourse, as a society as a whole, but only as individuals.
It is my belief that the world we have is created by our own choices. We have a cultural story that no one questions, it is simply accepted. I feel
that this cultural story has also been manipulated to serve a select few.
What I advocate is making a choice, on the individual level (as all choices are made), to approach things differently. It would *not* be a perfect
world. There would still be many, many issues.
But, instead of perpetuating the cycle on the individual level, why dont we try to work towards an ideal? One that is determined by rationality and
logic. Are we making decisions on the individual level that truly benefit us individually *and* as a whole? Perhaps in some regards, but the major
issues, I do not feel we are!
To explain my position a bit better, I am of the mind that enabling everyone and making their very existence feel valuable, desired, and truly equal
will lay a foundation where we can progress in the most logical way to benefit every single one of us. Think of how many ideas, inventions, and art
that has been lost due to individuals being made to feel worthless and weak on the individual level. Whether it is done through resource control,
religious control, economy control, societal control, etc it all has the same result.
I think a different way of looking at groups is that we are
stronger when we work together, but that absolutely does not
make us weak,
worthless, or inferior (not equal) on the individual level. And if we are, in fact, stronger together as a group.. why do we not try to rationally
work towards the best way to actually function as a team?
It will not change anyone who does not wish it, but for those who do want to work towards a better place for all of us, it seems almost imperative.
And as it grows, those who remained on the fence will simply see that more progress, innovation, and equality simply exist as a matter of course. It
benefits everyone on both the group level, and the individual level. As it grows further, even those who are only convinced by their own greed will
see that by enabling your society at the individual level, it increases the quality of life for every single person involved. Including those at the
top who are so afraid of losing their material accumulations.
This is only *my* view though, and it is the ideal I work towards. It is only one individual amongst many. I am not weak or inferior to others, but
more and more working together will enable us all at every level, in a full circle/cycle.
In essence, it is consciously choosing what "endless" cycle we wish to perpetuate. Why are we only relegated to "sticking with what we know?" The
very notion bothers me as a scientist.
TL;DR: Why arent we using the scientific method to explore the best way to work together as a team and as a society?
What do you mean by "their science?"
Evolution, Stem Cell Research, In Vitro, Genetic Engineering..........
I am not so sure those are relegated to any people of any belief systems. While some systems may be against it, that does not mean (in my mind) that
those who are against those
religions are able to claim such things as their own. Either way, I am not sure it is even relevant as long as we
are learning, growing, and working towards better things.
Hope all that makes sense. Feel free to ask questions, just as I have towards you. We can all learn from each other.
I wont even acknowledge the Sting quote! Wait..
edit on 15-6-2013 by Serdgiam because: (no reason given)