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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.




posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.


So, you can marry more than one wife in the US?



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.


So, you can marry more than one wife in the US?


Why can't you is a better question.

But, I have no idea how you are trying to tie multiple wives to separation of church and state.


edit on 6-6-2013 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:34 PM
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reply to post by Grimpachi
 


The monument poses no threat. It isn't hurting anybody. If you are protesting it I mu st assume it is out of insecurity. if you are not protesting then I apologize.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.


So, you can marry more than one wife in the US?


Why can't you is a better question.

But, I have no idea how you are trying to tie multiple wives to separation of church and state.


edit on 6-6-2013 by Annee because: (no reason given)


The very first United States Supreme Court's decision on this topic was about the government's ban on multiple wives.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.


So, you can marry more than one wife in the US?


Why can't you is a better question.

But, I have no idea how you are trying to tie multiple wives to separation of church and state.


edit on 6-6-2013 by Annee because: (no reason given)


The very first United States Supreme Court's decision on this topic was about the government's ban on multiple wives.


Why are multiple wives banned?

That is still the better question.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by GeisterFahrer
 





Exactly, because that is the atheist POV that is being taught as truth.


That is just not true. Show me the public school curriculum that teaches children that there is no evidence of a god.


have you taken a Zoology course? perhaps discussed abiogenesis?
edit on 6-6-2013 by GeisterFahrer because: (no reason given)


And just how does abiogenesis refute the existence of a god?



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.


So, you can marry more than one wife in the US?


Why can't you is a better question.

But, I have no idea how you are trying to tie multiple wives to separation of church and state.


edit on 6-6-2013 by Annee because: (no reason given)


The very first United States Supreme Court's decision on this topic was about the government's ban on multiple wives.


Why are multiple wives banned?

That is still the better question.


because marriage is legally defined as being between one man and one woman.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by windword

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by GeisterFahrer
 





Exactly, because that is the atheist POV that is being taught as truth.


That is just not true. Show me the public school curriculum that teaches children that there is no evidence of a god.


have you taken a Zoology course? perhaps discussed abiogenesis?
edit on 6-6-2013 by GeisterFahrer because: (no reason given)


And just how does abiogenesis refute the existence of a god?


You apparently haven't taken a zoology course. Abiogenesis teaches evolution as fact, as in - there was no creator, there was no god, life evolved and originated from lifeless matter.

You cannot teach irreducible complexity as a theory in Zoology ...which is really ironic in a way, because there was a lot of resistance to Charles Darwin's theory of evolution (and still is) by many "people of faith" however, it is taught as gospel truth

It is a biased censorship. Jim Crow (you all have your churches where you can teach that stuff, leave God out of the class).
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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.


So, you can marry more than one wife in the US?


Why can't you is a better question.

But, I have no idea how you are trying to tie multiple wives to separation of church and state.


edit on 6-6-2013 by Annee because: (no reason given)


The very first United States Supreme Court's decision on this topic was about the government's ban on multiple wives.


Why are multiple wives banned?

That is still the better question.


because marriage is legally defined as being between one man and one woman.


You mean the Christian definition.

The Supreme Court decision was against the Mormons. Why were the Mormons not allowed religious freedom in their belief of multiple wives?

End if this particular sidetrack.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer[/]

There is no separation clause in the US Constitution.


Legal precedent has been set -- in court caes won -- regarding separation of church and state.


So, you can marry more than one wife in the US?


Why can't you is a better question.

But, I have no idea how you are trying to tie multiple wives to separation of church and state.


edit on 6-6-2013 by Annee because: (no reason given)


The very first United States Supreme Court's decision on this topic was about the government's ban on multiple wives.


Why are multiple wives banned?

That is still the better question.


because marriage is legally defined as being between one man and one woman.


You mean the Christian definition.

The Supreme Court decision was against the Mormons. Why were the Mormons not allowed religious freedom in their belief of multiple wives?

End if this particular sidetrack.


The "legal" definition. Marriage started being regulated in Virginia - it also became illegal for cousins to intermarry, and brothers and sisters to intermarry. Religion was an afterthought to hygiene.
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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:01 PM
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You apparently haven't taken a zoology course. Abiogenesis teaches evolution as fact, as in - there was no creator, there was no god, life evolved and originated from lifeless matter.


You mean it hypothesises that YOUR VERSION of creation may not be true?

Evolution and a god concept can coexist. Abiogenesis isn't the same thing as evolution.


"As if evolution and evolutionary theory were not already confusing enough, many creationists complicate matters even further by promulgating the mistaken idea that evolution is the same as abiogenesis... the origin of life is certainly an interesting topic, but it is not a part of evolutionary theory." -Austin Cline, "Abiogenesis & Evolution: It's a Myth that Abiogenesis is the Same as Evolution,"



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:02 PM
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The monument poses no threat.


I do not remember anyone saying it did.




It isn't hurting anybody.


I didn’t say it was.




If you are protesting it I mu st assume it is out of insecurity.



I am not protesting any more than you are as far as I can tell. If I were it wouldn’t be out of insecurity how you came to that conclusion takes some mental gymnastics IMO.

If I were to protest it would be from a sense of patriotism upholding the true basis of this nation which has been the constitution, and our forefathers efforts, wisdom, and foresight when establishing a country with a separation of church and state where people are free to choose what they believe without the persecution of the government for doing so.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:05 PM
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We (as in United States) have legal same sex marriage.

The accurate and correct definition of marriage reflects that.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
We (as in United States) have legal same sex marriage.

The accurate and correct definition of marriage reflects that.



A wedding is a religious ceremony, a marriage is a legal definition and contract. Certain States have allowed same sex marriage but it is federally defined as being between one man and one woman. You can call it whatever you want.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

The "legal" definition. Marriage started being regulated in Virginia - it also became illegal for cousins to intermarry, and brothers and sisters to intermarry. Religion was an afterthought to hygiene.


Uh huh.

Dominant Christian religious belief had nothing to do with banning the multiple marriages of Mormons.

Right!



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer

The "legal" definition. Marriage started being regulated in Virginia - it also became illegal for cousins to intermarry, and brothers and sisters to intermarry. Religion was an afterthought to hygiene.


Uh huh.

Dominant Christian religious belief had nothing to do with banning the multiple marriages of Mormons.

Right!





Hygiene laws. That was why, once upon a time, you had to take a blood test to get your marriage license.

But to somehow respond to your notion that it was a pre-dominant christian "thing" to ban Mormons from their bigamist beliefs, perhaps mentioning that the whole concept of "marriage" originated from the tribe of Judea? The oldest recorded 'marriage" (ca 3,000 BC) was between one man and one woman and was an "exchange" between two families.

to claim that a same sex couple is "married" would be redefining a word that actually meant something else for 5,000 years.

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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:15 PM
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Just like they have no involvement in the legality of same sex marriage or any of the pro-life legislation.



posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Annee
 


Just like they have no involvement in the legality of same sex marriage or any of the pro-life legislation.


Do babies have rights? or no? I mean, i am familiar with the definition of viable life .. but i highly doubt a fetus will develop into a dinosaur.
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posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by GeisterFahrer
. . . a marriage is a legal definition and contract. Certain States have allowed same sex marriage but it is federally defined as being between one man and one woman. You can call it whatever you want.


America's legal government marriage license was created for one reason.

To keep races from inter marrying.

Lets just not even go down this road.


edit on 6-6-2013 by Annee because: (no reason given)



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