Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by RomeByFire
reply to post by Ahabstar
Since you brought up the topic of pictures/video, why have we still not seen any footage other than the five frames that were played that day
regarding the supposed plane wrecking into the Pentagon?
All the local CCTV has been released.
Why have official requests been denied?
They haven't, we have a total list of all the videos the FBI collected
Furthermore, if it were these supposed terrorists, and there is absolute proof of this in the tapes, then why don't they release them and wash
this thing clean beyond an unreasonable doubt.
They don't have absolute proof, nobody can ever have absolute proof. Christ they found a passport and that is apparently not enough proof. They found
video wills and that's apparently not enough proof. The two people behind the plot spoke loudly and frequently about how awesome they were. Not
You could put a 911 truther in the damn plane seconds before impact and they'd begin questioning the passengers on which federal agency they work
Oh, and by the way, the church that your strawman alluded to didn't collapse into it's own footprint. WTC7 did. I could go on for days about
the inconsistencies in NORAD, molten steel in which jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to accomplish this, or half a dozen of other claims made by
reputable and real engineers and architects.
Or you could just read peer reviewed journals, notice that not a single 'reputable' scientist or engineer has published anything remotely
related to WTC7 and that if it collapsed into its own footprint, you have to ask what happened here:
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, for one example.
Have you seen their site? They still list thermite and high explosives as what was used, which makes zero sense. They don't exist to do
anything but 'ask questions' and collect money. They have yet to publish anything.
Why is it you're willing to listen to one side, but when the head of the largest building group (CTBUH) states his position explicitly it has
no effect on you?
More pointless and hypothetical scenarios that are completely irrelevant to the points I've made. But hey, it's easier to take the route of assuming
what "truthers" would do in extenuating circumstances, because that proves what, exact?
Also, bolding certain words doesn't make them more true.
And yes, I have seen their site. And I will absolutely listen to "truthers" (I'll slander the many research firms myself so it's easier for you to
digest) who are accredited in their fields, who have found the logical impossibilities of the nature of the WTC7 collapse, compared to hearsay on ATS
with no links other than one to wiki.
Oh, and you forgot to go all nine yards. You forget to address NORAD. But you, seem more interested in simply discrediting me rather than proving an
objective point. Why does thermite and high explosives make "no sense?" Furthermore, where did I say that in my post? I didn't. Nice strawman
attempt at something I didn't say, though.
"You could put a 9/11 truther in a damn plane," nice ad hom. How old are we again? What does that statement have to do regarding 9/11, more
You have a nice day, sir, I'm not doing the same routine jumping through the same hoops with someone whose more concerned with discrediting someone
rather than proving their side. It's hilariously ironic how you many times you name-called, and judged through labels and a plethora of fallacies.
I'm not going to try and have a civil debate with someone who calls me out for "listening to only one side," when YOU are doing literally the
exact, same, thing.
But hey scratch my response, I'll just play devils advocate and take a piece from your book.
"Man, those nay-sayers could be on their way to their re-education camps as they'd STILL applaud their government."
Oh man making judgemental blanket statements is so easy!
Makes me wonder why some many "truthers" don't rely on them to prove their point; oh yes, that's right. Because they have integrity and have more
of a thought process than absorbing the drivel from mainstream media and hearsay.
Oh and you said it yourself, we could never have absolute proof?
Not according to my government. There was enough "proof" for them to illegally invade an entire region of the wod, all the whe passing Draconian
laws on it's citizens. Instead of attempting to slander me, look at the bigger picture.
The public has still been denied under the FOIA regarding those Pentagon surveillance tapes, just so you know.