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Originally posted by Imightknow
I'm sure most of everyone on here already knows that since 9/11 and the creation of the beloved "patriot act" that all of our personal info can be handed over to government agencies WITHOUT a warrant; much less even letting anyone, including a judge, know WHY the info is needed.
What I didn't know about was exactly how often personal info is sought after. Just the FBI alone in 2011 made 16,511 national security request letters to google asking for personal info on American citizens.
www.mercurynews.com...
If I were a judge I would probably lose my job here because I would not demand google hand over anything unless they gave the reason for the request and it had better be a damn good one. These days anything can fall into the category of national security, ANYTHING!!!!
How else is any of this ever going to change until we start electing people who won't go down so easily to what the govy wants them to do?
Originally posted by Imightknow
Keep in mind this is just the FBI, doesn't include the DHS, CIA, NSA, DIA, and all the other pretty little 3 letter agencies that most people don't even know exist.
The point being that all they need to do is write a letter saying they want it, and then Google or anyone else holding that info can't say no. When big brother can do whatever they please more and more rights tend to get forgotten about.
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by Imightknow
Oh, and screw google. Use start page.
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by Hopechest
If a person has morals or some kind of principles, you have to oppose behavior thats unethical regardless of how many times the crime is committed.
"Well your honor, sure my client robs people, but in comparison to the entire US population, its hardly anyone"...
If spying is illegal for the average citizen, it has to therefore be illegal for the government, unless we live in some kind of a regime.
If the government thinks that a person may be a threat, present your evidence to a court, make your case and get a warrant.
But the government doesnt want any oversight, wonder why?
edit on 1-6-2013 by gladtobehere because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Imightknow
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by Imightknow
Oh, and screw google. Use start page.
Just checked it out, right on the page it says "enhanced by google". So now I'm a bit confused. I liked the idea when I first saw "the world's most private search engine", but what good does that do if it still uses google?