The Black Knight Satellite

reply to post by zazzafrazz


Because it's a fictitious satellite. It's a myth made up of a bunch of unrelated stories. In one it has a polar orbit, in another it moves from west to east.

reply to post by Phage


So we can safely say that an object that size couldn't ?

reply to post by zazzafrazz

I would say that it's safe to say that. Yes.

reply to post by Phage


No base estimation. Just what one of the pics reminds me of.

It is farther up the ...ummm...in fact, it is the first picture on the thread.

I realize it is to big for a chair. That same picture also reminds me of a torn rocket booster or something like that as it seems you can see two jets on the end of it.

Honestly Phage, I am just kind of letting the mind wander with what it could be. From what I have read on this thread, it was supposed to be the size of a bus, but I think that was something someone said in passing.

It could be anything or nothing. Kind of like Mars rocks and weird things, space is cool and full of surprises.

It does seem to be something though doesn't it?

My question is, if it was so important, why has it not been taken out of orbit?
You would think the space shuttle could get close enough to at last check it out, so to me that suggests junk, in all reality. or a secret military satellite. (but if that was the case the space shuttle wouldn't of taken pics of it I don't think)

(unless they don't tell us everything and hide stuff like this, which I wonder about but have no real idea on and quite frankly don't care about because the whole alien idea doesn't fit into my personal experiences other than a UFO once while camping)

But hey, if it is something extra-ordinary, I go with advanced human or other creation from the future, and sent back to observe and possibly do something at some point and time.

Or maybe it is a relay for intergalactic travel, who knows?

But that is just fun mind play with only looking at this thread, I have never really looked at any other threads about this with interest.

So people can say I am talking out my butt, and I agree

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
reply to post by Phage

 

So we can safely say that an object that size couldn't ?

Or it's harnessing the earths gravitational / magnetic field to sling its way around if not using fuels. Thats if it actually exists.

reply to post by Darkblade71

t is farther up the ...ummm...in fact, it is the first picture on the thread.

The images I posted are of the same object, all taken within two minutes of each other.

I realize it is to big for a chair.

Again. On what do you base the size estimation?

It does seem to be something though doesn't it?

Of course it is.

My question is, if it was so important, why has it not been taken out of orbit?

What makes you think it is still in orbit?

You would think the space shuttle could get close enough to at last check it out, so to me that suggests junk, in all reality.

The pictures were taken from a shuttle.

The images are of debris which was lost during an EVA on mission STS-88.

The more I look at it, the more it makes me think about somekind of component
Like if it was a detachable part of a bigger thing

Some parts are covered by what looks like a hull, some seem to be "naked", revealing pieces of equipment/machinery

Probably the weirdest space picture of a non man made object...

1954...

This object's design looks like more 2100

reply to post by Phage


I like your answer

But...

Has this been proven?

To quote Gazrok at the beginning of the thread:

(Note, some may claim this is other man-made debris and not the Black Knight, and it may well be, but if so, I've seen nothing else conclusively identifying the rather large object in this pic or the other STS088 pics)

I am interested is knowing for certain, can we know for certain?

reply to post by Darkblade71

I am interested is knowing for certain, can we know for certain?

Yes.
Unless of course you have a knee jerk reaction to disbelieve everything that comes from NASA.

reply to post by Phage


I accept NASA's answers for a lot of things a lot of people don't.
I just don't trust them to tell us if a big meteor is gonna hit us.

Other than that, I think they do a wonderful job in space, and hope they continue to do so.

NASA's official answer is it is space junk right? Did I read that right?


Not space junk, STS088?

Sorry for the edit/error.

Brain is dead after all day.

reply to post by Darkblade71

I just don't trust them to tell us if a big meteor is gonna hit us.

You don't have to. Such information does not come from NASA.

NASA's official answer is it is space junk right? Did I read that right?

That's what the captions for the images say. And it is corroborated by mission reports. Yes, it is "space junk". Materials released during an EVA on shuttle mission 88.

reply to post by Phage


So the image in the OP can't be the Black Knight unless it miraculously could switch orbits.

Are people arguing a piece of space debris in equatorial orbit is the Back Knight Polar Orbit?

reply to post by zazzafrazz

Are people arguing a piece of space debris in equatorial orbit is the Back Knight Polar Orbit?

Sort of. The idea is that the images from STS-88 are the same thing which was identified as remnants of the Discoverer 5 mission in 1960 and the same thing that was sighted in 1954 and allegedly identified as a natural satellite. The 1954 sighting being somewhat controversial with the project leader denying that there was such a sighting.

Please don't ask me how these things are connected. I have no idea.

reply to post by Phage


Then that is good enough for me, but it was a lot of fun to let the mind wander!

Good thing I don't trust NASA on meteors then!

You rock Phage!

This was a fun and entertaining thread.
I love looking at space stuff and trying to figure out what it is on my own before finding the answer....

Good stuff for a scifi novel!

What about the 1954 report though? That I do wonder about. That 1 or 2 objects that had a polar orbit?
Or is that hearsay with no evidence that it even happened? (other than the news clip? or were they simply mistaken?)

reply to post by zazzafrazz


Allegedly the satellite would disappear off radar for several weeks, then show up in a different orbit. Sometimes equatorial, sometimes polar.

reply to post by Phage


So its a Frankenstein Satellite. bits sown together to make a tale.

Thanks for being patient with my stupid questions

As I can't sleep, lets take this back to basics.

Simple Question.

What human made objects were in space in 1954?

reply to post by neformore


hehe, its a school night for you

Wasn't 1954 never 'confirmed'?

Originally posted by neformore
As I can't sleep, lets take this back to basics.

Simple Question.

What human made objects were in space in 1954?

edit on 2/6/13 by neformore because: (no reason given)

As far as anyone seems to know: none.

Nothing on official record in any case.

reply to post by Darkblade71

What about the 1954 report though? That I do wonder about. That 1 or 2 objects that had a polar orbit?

No mention that I can find of the orbit for those objects however the lead researcher says he was misquoted, that no such discovery was made.
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