1)Bush doesn't have any troops. If you are refering to the members of the Armed Forces, many of whom do not like this war, then please realize that
they were as duped by him (if not more do to the militaries propoganda machine) as we were.
President George Bush is the Commander and Chief of our armed forces and he does have troops under his command. If the men and women who serve in our
armed forces where, “duped” as you say they were, why did they vote for him at a ratio of eight out of ten in the last election? Are they still under
his, “mind control”? Are you trying to infer that our troops are stupid and gullible?
I served in the military and I know why most of them voted for George Bush. They voted for him for the same reason they have always voted for
Republicans eight to ten over Democrats. Democrats are weak on defense and our service members know this.
2)Many people are against this war because their loved ones have to fight in it. I now a women at my church who has both her sons inthe marines and
yet she is a dedicated pacifist(and yet, contrary to you "logic" loves and cares about and gets along with both her sons very much).
You can be against this war and not equate President George Bush to Hitler. If someone is against this war and voices their opinions in a
well-reasoned manner I can live with that. It’s those people who are not only against this war but make outrageous claims that they believe President
Bush is the moral equivalent of Adolph Hitler! These same people then go on to say how much they support our troops. This is a moral outrage! If
President Bush is Hitler then those troops who obey his evil commands deserve death! You cannot have it both ways.
I_AM_That_I_AM 3)Your so called "reasoning" ( and in this case I use the term as loosely as possible)is utterly devoid of any logic whatsoever. The
troops only technically follow the president. He is not out there leading them in battle(though I think that he should be). They dont' really
"follow him" as you put it. They follow the leaders who are out their inthe field with them. If you knew anything about the Marines then you would
know that true marines fight for their brothers in arms, not some guy sitting back in the states.
So by your reasoning you would stand by the Nazi Soldiers who claimed that they were only, “following orders”? After all, Hitler wasn’t actually on
the battlefield, “leading” them, his leaders in the field did that. So by your logic it was ok for them to support the Nazi regime because they were
not doing it for Hitler but for their leaders and brothers in arms.
You have a dangerous thought process. The same logic that you use to support our troops has been used in the past. It was the primary defense of the
Nazi Soldier at Nuremberg. Thank God the men who oversaw that trial saw it for what it was, nonsense!
I_AM_That_I_AM 1 If Vietnam taught us anything, it is that we MUST seperate a war from the soldiers who are forced to fight in it. Though many could
have gone AWOL they instaed chose to honor their contract and stick with their bretheran in the long road ahead.
I agree, to a point. If they are against the war for practical reasons or other reasons which are outside of morality then by all means they should
fight. However, if they are against the war for moral reasons but fight anyway then they are cowards! They have said in their hearts that what they
are doing is evil but do it anyway to avoid personal problems that their morality would bring upon them if they refused to fight. They are cowards and
cowards of the most perverse kind.
Most of the soldiers who fought for Adolph Hitler knew that they were supporting an evil empire but did it anyway. If they had any moral courage they
would have fought against Hitler but most did not.
The sum of my argument is this. If you are serving in the military you must ask yourself a very important question. Is what I’m doing a violation of
moral principle? If it is, you must at the very least, leave the military. If you stay and support something that you know is evil you are a coward.
Every American must also ask themselves the same question. Do I think that our actions in Iraq or elsewhere are evil? If you think that they are you
need to denounce those actions and the soldiers who support them.
A soldier can never be separated from the cause that he serves. If the cause is good then he is good. Now I’m using moral terms here. If the cause is
evil then he is evil for supporting it. This is not a new thought. We used this same logic to find many Nazi soldiers guilty of war crimes and crimes
against humanity. The Nazi’s tried to make the, "I was only following orders” defense and it could not withstand the weight of the moral test.