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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by NewAgeMan
Do you think that the speed of light encoded into the degrees north latitude of the grand gallery of the great pyramid was a mere coincidence?
Pretty much so. Since the Egyptians didn't have a numbering system like ours. They didn't use zero, for example. And their fractional calculations were based on units (1/2, 1/8, etc.). Try converting that decimal fraction to a unitary fraction.
Did the Egyptians use the modern meter? No, they used the cubit (about half a meter). What's the speed of light in cubits per second?
Not sure you can really determine the location of the Grand Gallery to that precision with Google Earth though.
Good question.
and what does any of this have to do with the moon and it's relationship to the earth, and the sun?
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
I saw this documentary posted on another thread and decided to document some of the mathematical 'coincidences' that are contained in the geometry of the Great Pyramid. I ended up writing for over an hour and it took up a bit of my time creating and editing some of these pictures so I decided to post this thread.
NAM, aside: Behold, the meter!
The picture you see above shows some simple dimensions of the Great Pyramid (most drawings aren't to scale). Think of this as a side on view of the Great Pyramid. The 440 (width) and 280 (height) are measured in 'cubits'. As you will see, this design has many interesting mathematical features. So what is this cubit I speak of?
The cubit is a traditional unit of length, based on the length of the forearm. Cubits of various lengths were employed in many parts of the world in Antiquity, in the Middle Ages and into Early Modern Times.
The Egyptian hieroglyph for the cubit shows the symbol of a forearm. The Egyptian cubit was subdivided into 7 palms of 4 digits each; surviving cubit rods are between 52.3 and 52.9 cm in length.[1]
Cubit - Wikipedia
The cubit is the unit of length that was used to build the Great Pyramid of Giza. It seems to have some amazing properties. For instance. If you draw a circle with a diameter of 1 meter, one sixth of the circumference will be equal to 1 cubit. Keep in mind that we weren't using the meter as a unit of measurement until some time after 1789.
So what exactly is a meter/metre?
The metre (meter in the US), symbol m, is the base unit of length in the International System of Units (SI). Originally intended to be one ten-millionth of the distance from the Earth's equator to the North Pole (at sea level), its definition has been periodically refined to reflect growing knowledge of metrology. Since 1983, it is defined as the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum in 1⁄299,792,458 of a second.[1]
Metre - Wikipedia
Upon further inspection mathematicians found that the Great Pyramid of Giza has Pi built into the geometry. If you take the perimeter of the base and divide it by the height multiplied by 2 you'll get Pi (1760/560 = 3.14). The Great Pyramid is a 'square circle' as they say. This is another highly debated subject. Many people refuse to believe the Egyptians had knowledge of Pi or encoded it into their buildings. So what exactly is Pi?
π (sometimes written pi) is a mathematical constant that is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter. π is approximately equal to 3.14. Many formulae in mathematics, science, and engineering involve π, which makes it one of the most important mathematical constants.[1] For instance, the area of a circle is equal to π times the square of the radius of the circle.
π is an irrational number, which means that its value cannot be expressed exactly as a fraction having integers in both the numerator and denominator (unlike 22/7). Consequently, its decimal representation never ends and never repeats. π is also a transcendental number, which implies, among other things, that no finite sequence of algebraic operations on integers (powers, roots, sums, etc.) can render its value; proving this fact was a significant mathematical achievement of the 19th century.
Pi - Wikipedia
Further more, the Great Pyramid has another very important number hidden within its geometry. If you take the surface area of the four top sides and divide it by the surface of the base, you'll get the 'golden number', also called the 'golden ratio'. In mathematics I think this number is called 'Phi' (identified with the φ symbol). So just what is this golden number?
In mathematics and the arts, two quantities are in the golden ratio if the ratio of the sum of the quantities to the larger quantity is equal to the ratio of the larger quantity to the smaller one. The golden ratio is an irrational mathematical constant, approximately 1.61803398874989.[1] Other names frequently used for the golden ratio are the golden section (Latin: sectio aurea) and golden mean.[2][3][4]
Golden Ratio
Now that we have all the ingredients that we need to connect this all together, prepare to have your mind blown. If you take Pi and subtract Phi squared you'll get one cubit (Pi - Phi^2 = cubit).
Maybe you think it couldn't get any crazier than that? Well you're wrong. Think of the next picture as a top down view (birds eye view) of the pyramid, which is drawn in black lines. If you draw two circles, one inside the square and one outside the square as shown below, and you subtract the inner circumference from the outer circumference, the answer is equal to nothing else but... the speed of light.
Coincidence?
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Why is it the threads trying to validate nonsense get the most activity? And the threads that are truly thought-provoking threads get almost nothing? Let's see NAM solve that puzzle.edit on 5-6-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
"There is a principal which serves as a bar against all information and proof against all arguments, and one that cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principal is called - contempt, prior to investigation."
~ Herbert Spencer, Scientist
If you draw a circle with a diameter of 1 meter you get a circumference of pi. One sixth of pi is 0.5236. So yes, within the variance in the length of a cubit (about a quarter inch)
For instance. If you draw a circle with a diameter of 1 meter, one sixth of the circumference will be equal to 1 cubit.
That's nice and convoluted. Do you know how the Egyptians made the measurements for the pyramid? They used a wheel. What happens if you use a wheel to make measurements? You find multiples of pi. Surprise.
If you take the perimeter of the base and divide it by the height multiplied by 2 you'll get Pi (1760/560 = 3.14).
Huh? How so?
The Great Pyramid is a 'square circle' as they say.
The math is pretty simple. And no. It doesn't. The radius of the circle is 279.84 cubits. The square has a side of 440 cubits. Can you do the rest yourself? But is there something significant about 440,000?
If I'm not mistaken, and I need to further verify this, but apparently the sum of the area of the outer circle and square combined = 440,000 cubits.. another "coincidence" I guess..
Originally posted by Phage
The math is pretty simple. And no. It doesn't. The radius of the circle is 279.84 cubits. The square has a side of 440 cubits. Can you do the rest yourself? But is there something significant about 440,000?
If I'm not mistaken, and I need to further verify this, but apparently the sum of the area of the outer circle and square combined = 440,000 cubits.. another "coincidence" I guess..
But to clarify all this. Are you saying that God built the Great Pyramid?
edit on 6/5/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
But it's a circle. Circles don't bulge. Neither do squares.
with a slight "bulge" and it's not inconceivable that the final value would be precisely 440,000
One billion what?The average distance to the sun is about 93 million miles, not one billion. Not close. BTW, 93 million miles is about 286,173,269,598 cubits.
1 billion = the distance to the sun.
The Egyptians were not aware of what?
I was also refuting your rebuttal about the meter ie: that the Egyptians were not aware of it or that it had no correlation with the cubit, which was false.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by NewAgeMan
But it's a circle. Circles don't bulge. But remember, it's the inner circle that's supposed to represent Earth anyway.
with a slight "bulge" and it's not inconceivable that the final value would be precisely 440,000
The average distance to the sun is about 93 million miles, not one billion. Not close. BTW, 93 million miles is about 286,173,269,598 cubits.
1 billion = the distance to the sun.
The Egyptians were not aware of what?
I was also refuting your rebuttal about the meter ie: that the Egyptians were not aware of it or that it had no correlation with the cubit, which was false.
What has a correlation to a cubit?
edit on 6/5/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
No. Height of the Pyramid 280 cubits. Distance to the center of the Sun 287,503,092,165 cubits. More than 7 billion off.
I said height of the pyramid X 1 billion = distance to the center of the sun.
That's right. There is no correlation.
The meter. Earlier you said that there was no correlation between their measuring system and the modern one, and that therefore the encoded reference to the speed of light in meters/second must have been a pure coincidence.
but the result is replicable on Google Earth.
google-earth-plotter.googlecode.com...
The accuracy tests show that the Helmert transformation used by the program is on average 1.3m horizontally from the position in the imagery. The true published values of the passive stations were even further from the imagery. This is an error of position in the Google Earth imagery. The accuracy of the aerial imagery depends on how well-aligned it is to the coordinate system used by Google’s model of the Earth. The alignment accuracy depends upon how much time and effort has gone into georeferencing the vertical photographs, and the preparation of the digital mosaics. The Helmert transformation was found to be 2.1m from the published values. The use of OSTN02 would eliminate this error, however, it can be seen that this will not help the KML align with the imagery.
That would depend on how judiciously you round the numbers. And which one you want to select. Didn't you say "the center of the Sun". I guess a moving target makes it easier, huh?
not so far off after all..
I saw the post. There is no connection with the meter. Ill ask you again, what is the significance of 1/6 of something?
They were well aware of the meter, for which there is a most definite correlation to the cubit.
How does that supports the theory of intelligent design?
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Phage
Re: Google Earth - fine, the number could be a pure coincidence.., but not the means by which the speed of light (in meters/sec) may be calculated from the base of the pyramid (see post above).
Which one says the cubit has any relationship to the meter?
Looking into it and the relationship between the different measuring systems of old and present, it's very very interesting.