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Originally posted by LAkadian
reply to post by Afewloosescrews
I'd try to argue that. To be frank I don't see the conflict.
"On a long enough timeline the survival rate of everyone drops to zero."
The universe is pretty old, and we had several Earthwide catastrophes to
kill off life and make it reformat its genetic structure.
Imagine a place naturally quite a bit harsher, but with fewer worldwide catastrophes.
We haven't been able to calculate an edge to this universe yet.
How many of those worlds can you count?
Yes, I see what you are saying here. If it was precisely so, the earth would be a precise sphere and not one with a few bumps and rough edges.
So you deny that mathematics is found in the Universe? So man created mathematics. Nicely humanist.
pluralnoun [ usu. treated as sing. ]
the abstract science of number, quantity, and space. Mathematics may be studied in its own right (pure mathematics), or as it is applied to other disciplines such as physics and engineering (applied mathematics).
• [ often treated as pl. ] the mathematical aspects of something: the mathematics of general relativity.
Mathematics is the abstract study of quantity, structure, space, change, and many other topics. It has no generally accepted definition.
adjective |abˈstrakt, ˈabˌstrakt|
existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence: abstract concepts such as love or beauty.
• dealing with ideas rather than events: the novel was too abstract and esoteric to sustain much attention.
• not based on a particular instance; theoretical: we have been discussing the problem in a very abstract manner.
• (of a word, esp. a noun) denoting an idea, quality, or state rather than a concrete object: abstract words like truth or equality.
• of or relating to abstract art: abstract pictures that look like commercial color charts.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
No. The Moon just is.
You're the one who said there is a creative force. You're the one who said we are the result of it.
Is there a purpose behind it?
So the flowers and so on formed in a mathematical sense all because man created mathematics. Then man must have created the flowers?
I think humanists have it all backwards, and man just observes the principles involved.
reply to post by LesMisanthrope
Man thinks geometrically
They formed how they formed, we merely look at it and describe in a mathematical sense.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
... look at it, look at the vibrancy of life on earth, all over the earth (for the most part), examine the qualities of the configuration and finely tuned balance, and then tell us how it is that on the one hand you say it's just a chance coincidence and fluke or throw of the dice
Originally posted by kauskau
oh god..synchronicity..is such an awesome idea..
one day it will be clear that the moon was placed by intellligent beings..
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
She never said accident. She was merely trying to explain that we have clumsy methods of translating causality.
It does. Is that it's "purpose"?
I thought it affected the tides and such?
You are telling me there is no purpose whatever to the universe.
You're welcome to your opinion.
Hmmm, just doesn't seem right to me.
But of course you have a humanist viewpoint and I don't I think a creative force "designed" everything and in which man can operate and you think man created it.