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Jehovah's Witnesses believe UN will ban Religion

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posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: Neith

originally posted by: Volkgeister
I recently spoke to a friend about his time as a witness (he is no longer). And he told me something interesting. Apparently Witnesses believe the UN will ban religion and are preparing accordingly.

Here is a link to:
www.thepowerhour.com...

I am not sure of the validity of his claim, and would much appreciate the input of ATS members.

Cheers.


My first thought upon reading this was, In favor of what? Chrislam? .... christ....


That might not be far from fact. The whole movement behind the scenes is to create an amalgam of belief under one umbrella, thereby suppressing any idea that there might be a true religion. Forgive me if any of these links have been posted before, but they are informational:

Spiritual Caucus At The United Nations
NGO Committee On Spirituality
The United Religions Initiative
Unitarian Universalist UN Office

The important thing to understand about the aforementioned prophecies are "God has put it in their heart to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled." - (Revelation 17:17 -NIV)

What this means is that there may be no warning or geopolitical events that lead up to these things. God "puts it into their heart" similar to when he changed the languages at Babel. (Genesis 11:7-9) There may be no rhyme or reason to that event, it will be sudden and swift.

Having said that, you can certainly see the anti-religion rhetoric gaining steam day by day. From that standpoint it only makes sense that eventually the consensus will be to get rid of religion altogether.




posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: TheChrome
The whole movement behind the scenes to create an umbrella belief by suppressing the true religion is found in scripture as well as this impending War that's about to begin. Scripture also said that upon both sides returning from the war there will be an all-out systematic elimination of the holy covenant. Daniel 11:25-34

It seems that there will be two waves to this war, the first wave the North s king will have success over the South's king. The second wave the North will not be as successful. This clearly shows that since the instalment of the despised king of the South (Donald J Trump/USA) at Daniel 11:21 these events are moving at a rapid pace. With the North s China heavy restriction on Christianity & Russia's apparent success of total elimination of a religion calling it extremist and criminal coupled with the war drums beating louder as both North and South prepare to fight, prophecy is becoming more clearer the final parts of Daniel the 11th chapter verses 21 onward.

God's words are truly being fulfilled as his light of truth shines more abundantly with increased knowledge in these last days leading to the Great Tribulation. Catapulting the attack on religion unexpectedly by the UN will be the catalyst to this epoch event.

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posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: Transparent
a reply to: TheChrome
The whole movement behind the scenes to create an umbrella belief by suppressing the true religion is found in scripture as well as this impending War that's about to begin. Scripture also said that upon both sides returning from the war there will be an all-out systematic elimination of the holy covenant. Daniel 11:25-34

It seems that there will be two waves to this war, the first wave the North s king will have success over the South's king. The second wave the North will not be as successful. This clearly shows that since the instalment of the despised king of the South (Donald J Trump/USA) at Daniel 11:21 these events are moving at a rapid pace. With the North s China heavy restriction on Christianity & Russia's apparent success of total elimination of a religion calling it extremist and criminal coupled with the war drums beating louder as both North and South prepare to fight, prophecy is becoming more clearer the final parts of Daniel the 11th chapter verses 21 onward.

God's words are truly being fulfilled as his light of truth shines more abundantly with increased knowledge in these last days leading to the Great Tribulation. Catapulting the attack on religion unexpectedly by the UN will be the catalyst to this epoch event.


The "Despised One" of Daniel 11:21 refers to Tiberius of Rome, who died without being deified and was considered a tyrant. In Daniel chapter 11, the prophesies of the Last Days do not start until Verse 29, when the "Appointed Time" arrives. At verse 40, we know there is a battle or "pushing" between US and Russia (Cold War), but it is unclear who the final king of the North And South are.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 01:24 PM
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Is this what triggers the start of the Great Tribulation?

News outlets report President Trump had just signed a controversial exrcutive order giving religious groups & organizations the freedom to engage in political activities with little fear of having their tax-exempt status removed by rules established by the IRS as having no political input or influence.

Religions will now feel more brazzen & untouchable because of this.Will this be what fully awakes the groggy beast (the UN), the disgusting thing that causes desolation? After this war, will governments set their focus & aim by turning their attention on deligion by exposing & ridding the world of them? See: Daniel 11:29-31; Revelation 17:15-18
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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: Transparent
Is this what triggers the start of the Great Tribulation?

News outlets report President Trump had just signed a controversial exrcutive order giving religious groups & organizations the freedom to engage in political activities with little fear of having their tax-exempt status removed by rules established by the IRS as having no political input or influence.

Religions will now feel more brazzen & untouchable because of this.Will this be what fully awakes the groggy beast (the UN), the disgusting thing that causes desolation? After this war, will governments set their focus & aim by turning their attention on deligion by exposing & ridding the world of them? See: Daniel 11:29-31; Revelation 17:15-18


No. Daniel 11:29-31 has already taken place. Remember we are talking about the kings of North and South since the time of Jesus. Germany was the king of the north during World War One and Two. At Daniel 11:30 it speaks of the "ships of western coastlands" coming against the king of the north. The ships of the western coastlands were the allied navies that came against the king of the north (Germany) and made Germany "Lose heart" (Daniel 11:30) Germany after WW1 regrouped, and under newly founded Nazism began persecuting true Christians all the way until it's demise at the end of WW2. Therefore the verses you speak of at Daniel 11:31 were fulfilled when Nazi Germany "abolished the daily sacrifice." True Christians resisted Hitler and were thrown into concentration camps as can be seen by history.

As far as Revelation 17:15-18, it is for the not too distant future, and more likely relates to Daniel 11:45-12:1 in the stream of time.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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but it is unclear who the final king of the North And South are.


The King of the south stays the same from WW1 until the end of the system, that is the Anglo-American world power, at the start of world war 1 it was Great Britain and all it's colonies that were the power, by the end of WW2 it was the Americans that were now the power. This duel power started at WW1. As they had fought against each other in a war as recent as 1812.

The prophesies in Daniel and revelation need to tie together and they do



As for the King of the North, it appears that a former member of the Soviet Union has arisen to take it's place in the form of Russia. It is the only country with technological weapons that rival America now.

Russia's Newet Tank

Fifth Generation Fighter Jet





The point is China is the only other rival and it doesn't have this type of tech nor does it have a true "blue water Navy" like Russia's to rival America's own Navy which is number one ranked for power projection as it has 10 aircraft carrier strike forces.
Carrier Strike Force


The final sentence of Daniel 11:45 describes the King Of the Norths ultimate fate.

But he will come to his end, with no one to help him.



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posted on May, 27 2017 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: TheChrome




but it is unclear who the final king of the North And South are.


The King of the south stays the same from WW1 until the end of the system, that is the Anglo-American world power, at the start of world war 1 it was Great Britain and all it's colonies that were the power, by the end of WW2 it was the Americans that were now the power. This duel power started at WW1. As they had fought against each other in a war as recent as 1812.

The final sentence of Daniel 11:45 describes the King Of the Norths ultimate fate.

But he will come to his end, with no one to help him.





We will see. There is a spider web of events starting in the last days. First, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, King George V of England, Empress Alexandra Feodorovna of Russia were all cousins and grandchildren of Queen Victoria of England. It is true that Russia was allied with Great Britain and The United States during both World War 1 and 2 and thus was also part the king of the south against Germany. Germany was divided after world war 2 and then reunited after the cold war. Germany, the former king of the north is now allied with the US and Great Britain. So who really took the position of the king of the north after world war 2? The Us/Great Britain or Russia?




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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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So who really took the position of the king of the north after world war 2?


The Soviet Union, the engaged "pushing" was carried on in the "cold war" until the Soviet Union fell apart under Gorbachev in late 1991. It was then that Russia really began to fall behind in weapons development and maintenance of there current weapons. I remember reading articles in the late 90's from people who had just come back from Russia and they said they were not a threat anymore, they were more worried about rogue elements getting the nukes, or disgruntled soldiers and officers just selling them off to the highest bidder. Putin came to power in 2000 and he has been rebuilding the Russian forces for 17 years until now it is once again a respected force in the world as my previous post showed.
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posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 11:49 PM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: TheChrome




So who really took the position of the king of the north after world war 2?


The Soviet Union, the engaged "pushing" was carried on in the "cold war" until the Soviet Union fell apart under Gorbachev in late 1991. It was then that Russia really began to fall behind in weapons development and maintenance of there current weapons. I remember reading articles in the late 90's from people who had just come back from Russia and they said they were not a threat anymore, they were more worried about rogue elements getting the nukes, or disgruntled soldiers and officers just selling them off to the highest bidder. Putin came to power in 2000 and he has been rebuilding the Russian forces for 17 years until now it is once again a respected force in the world as my previous post showed.



It's looking like "extremism" (as a pretense) might be the way nations will finally ban religion.

Sadly or expectedly, the majority of religious organizations are not paying attention to what's about to happen.

Consider the latest case of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine:


The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine will consider two draft laws on the status of religious organizations on May 18, one of which would effectively prohibit the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, the second of which would legalize the seizure of churches, reports RIA-Novosti with reference to Strana.ua. The first bill, No. 4511, “On the special status of religious organizations with headquarters located in states recognized by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine as aggressor states,” proposes that such religious organizations be able to appoint metropolitans and bishops only in agreement with the governing authorities. The same bill also gives the government the right to forbid a confession if its representatives cooperate with religious centers in “aggressor states.” No specific denominations are mentioned in the bill, but only the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (UOC-MP) meets all the criteria listed. One of the authors of the initiative, Deputy Dimitry Tymchuk, confirmed that the document does indeed deal specifically with the UOC-MP: “Across the whole country their churches remain points of agitation against the Ukrainian state. They sell anti-Ukrainian literature even in the center of the capital at the Kiev Caves Lavra,” he stated. The main research apparatus of the Verkhnova Rada has criticized the bill and recommended that it reject the bill as violating the constitution and acting laws in the country.
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www.pravoslavie.ru...

Not many are paying attention to it, just like what happened to the Witnesses in Russia.

The recent killings/murders done in the name of "Allah" (god/religion) will finally push individuals to finally put an end to extremism.

Hang tight for it is coming... soon.




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