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reply posted on 12-11-2004 @ 11:00 AM by Mynaeris
Here are some Jehovah's witness predictions about the end of the world.

"1914 was one of the more important estimates of the start of the war of Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society). They computed 1914 from prophecy in the book of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings referred to "seven times". The WTS interpreted each "time" as equal to 360 days, giving a total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as representing 2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This gave 1914 as the target date. When 1914 passed, they changed their prediction; 1914 became the year that Jesus invisibly began his rule.
1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994, etc. were other dates that the Watchtower Society (WTS) or its members predicted.
Since late in the 19th century, they had taught that the "battle of the Great Day of God Almighty" (Armageddon) would happen in 1914 CE. It didn't.
The next major estimate was 1925. Watchtower magazine predicted: "The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year." 6
The Watchtower Society selected 1975 as its next main prediction. This was based on the estimate "according to reliable Bible chronology Adam was created in the year 4026 BCE, likely in the autumn of the year, at the end of the sixth day of creation." 8 They believed that the year 1975 a promising date for the end of the world, as it was the 6,000th anniversary of Adam's creation. Exactly 1,000 years was to pass for each day of the creation week. This prophecy also failed.
The current estimate is that the end of the world as we know it will happen precisely 6000 years after the creation of Eve. 9 There is no way of knowing when this happened."

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reply posted on 12-11-2004 @ 11:11 AM by the sandman
Originally posted by Mynaeris
Here are some Jehovah's witness predictions about the end of the world.



www.religioustolerance.org...


Hav'nt they always stressed that know one knows the "time or the day"of Armaggedon.

So even if they have so many dates they have only been watching??


reply posted on 12-11-2004 @ 01:48 PM by Emily_Cragg
www.watchtowerinformationservice.org...

www.rickross.com...

The are hospitable to "NEW proselytes" not to anyone who is already a Witness to asks questions beyond the reach of Watchtower publications.

They throw people out whose very thinking is eccentric, even if their behavior conforms both to the letter and policy of the Watchtower Society.

That is my experience.



Here, this is too important to let slip. I realize GHWBsr favors the Moonie Church, which is highly conformist and dictatorial, as a worldwide church.

Never mind, that Christianity FREES the individual from social contracts, so that he or she can apply the Golden Rule, tolerance, mercy and charity in harmony with their own will.

The Bush Cabal, the NWO and the UN want to FORCE ideas on everyone, TOP-DOWN that totally direct behavior. This is merely one tyranny on top of all the others.

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United Nations Report
Mikhail Gorbachev:
New Moses for the masses
December 9, 2002

Who other than a Communist icon would think he could claim the right to replace the Ten Commandments?

At the United Nations, the Earth Charter is now officially recognized in the Chairman’s Draft Political Declaration. Mikhail Gorbachev and company have been trying to introduce it since at least 1997.

Catholic Insight writer M. Jeanne Ferrari says she heard Gorbachev say twice, at two different press conferences: "The Ten Commandments are out of date. They will be replaced by the 18 principles of the Earth Charter."

"He said it again, a third time, at another press conference. Speaking through an interpreter, Gorbachev spoke candidly abut his hope for the implementation of the Earth Charter, which had been drafted by Maurice Strong, ably supported by Stephen Rockefeller. Apparently, at the first State of the World Forum, Gorbachev had stated that the new world order would be achieved ‘step by step, stone by stone.’ In Rio, Gorbachev and company were just thinking about the design of the new order:

"’Experience in various countries is being gathered,’ he said. "The advanced countries should take advantage of the new openness to work with others, and should share their technological expertise with the world’s population, thus working toward a global village.

"'What model (of one-world government) are we pursuing?’ he was asked.

"'The model will be a form of democracy or parliamentary body. There are many forms of democracy. The Communist idea of Utopia was one and we all know the result of that experiment,’ he said. "’Now, the West is trying to impose Western values and religion on the whole world. We should not impose a blueprint on the world (except, of course, for the Earth Charter-Edit). We should strive toward unity in diversity, taking into account the unique qualities of each country. Nor should we be so involved with domestic issues that we forget the problems of other nations."

"With regard to the economy--and more specifically a global economy--Mr. Gorbachev was not optimistic. "'Will national economies disappear to give place to a one-world economy?’ "'This is unclear,’ he said, "Although he supports globalization, his attitude toward a global economy shifted during his press conference: ‘We must ensure that there are new ground rules for solving many problems.

"'We have come to a point where man’s intervention in nature cannot continue. Within 40 years at the latest (he said) changes in the biosphere will be irreversible. Nature has a mechanism for self-regulation. We cannot change this. We can only incorporate ourselves, restrict the activities that interfere with this, or nature will have to live without us. We must restrict or limit our consumption and reassess our way of life.

"'Until now we had the Ten Commandments; now we have a new set of ‘ecological commandments," the Earth Charter. "'It is a powerful document,’ said Gorbachev, ‘that will express a consensus toward common goals. Its importance will come from the authority from which it derives… "In Rio, he urged the press to publicize this. Now, five years later in Johannesburg, it has moved forward into the Chairman’s Draft Political Declaration!

"The second draft of the Charter referred to the Earth as our Mother, in terms that one outspoken delegate called ‘a love letter to our mom’.

''The Earth Charter has come a long way. It came to life as a document, on letter-sized paper, brought down by hand, from the 23rd floor of the Sheraton Hotel on Ipanema Beach, Rio de Janeiro, in 1997 by Gorbachev and company. Today it is a document on glossy 14x17 paper, ensconced in a gilt-covered ‘Ark of Hope’, made of cypress, decorated by Vermont artists, and borne into a conference at the World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg, is now immortalized in the Chairman’s Draft Political Declaration. Thank God, reason prevailed, and paragraph 13 was completely rewritten omitting the Earth Charter, deprived therefore of the hoped-for legitimacy."


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reply posted on 19-6-2006 @ 12:33 AM by Wisconsin
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by dgtempe
According to them, 144,000 will be saved of their faith, of course.


Close. They believe that the 144,000 will reign in Heaven over a paradise Earth.

As to the UN thing, that come from an interpretation in Revelations. It means that Gov'ts of the Earth will turn against religion.

Just in case you are wondering, I was raised JW but may get some things wrong as it has been over 20 years since practicing. Not wrong about this post though. I'll let you know when it's unclear to me.


I come from a big family that is split half way down the pipe. Me and the first half are Catholic and the other half are Jehovah Witnesses. An interesting bowl of soup I might add. I know alot of their beliefs as well. I studied with my aunt Sylvia who used to be so "sweet as apple pie" (as my mom put it) to the family. I studied with her for two years until I realized that a majority of their compliments and friendly behaviors were "scripted". Also, I didn't like the fact that they didn't celebrate Christmas. Feeling insulted, I told her that I was no longer interested.

Then, like a scene in a horror movie, she acted the complete opposite towards me and mom. She
scowled, clenched her fists and hissed a bunch of shocking insults at me and my Catholic family. The 144,000 JWs are what's known as the Anointed Ones that go straight to Heaven after death. they are also known as the Remnant. The rest of the people that are either JWs or Un baptized Publishers or knew seekers to their truth will be resurrected on Paradise Earth where the 144,000 will rule over them.

I wouldn't know about the UN thing though. I think that it's just JW propaganda. But yes, they can practice in secret just like they did back in WW II. Their message must get around somehow.

Wisconsin
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