Jehovah's Witnesses believe UN will ban Religion

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posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:44 PM
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I recently spoke to a friend about his time as a witness (he is no longer). And he told me something interesting. Apparently Witnesses believe the UN will ban religion and are preparing accordingly.

Here is a link to:
www.thepowerhour.com...

I am not sure of the validity of his claim, and would much appreciate the input of ATS members.

Cheers.




posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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It seems to me , aimed at all religions.. but i cant help wetting myself laughing here at the total idea and people believing it to be the truth..

Its a wind up.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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They can always practice secretly. Like witches did.

They're too worried about not being saved.
According to them, 144,000 will be saved of their faith, of course.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:54 PM
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I agree. It is a little odd.
But apparently Witnesses take it seriously. In fact a top Witness got kicked out of a NGO meeting at the UN headquarters (apparently, again no proof) for ranting about it.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
According to them, 144,000 will be saved of their faith, of course.


Close. They believe that the 144,000 will reign in Heaven over a paradise Earth.

As to the UN thing, that come from an interpretation in Revelations. It means that Gov'ts of the Earth will turn against religion.

Just in case you are wondering, I was raised JW but may get some things wrong as it has been over 20 years since practicing. Not wrong about this post though.
I'll let you know when it's unclear to me.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:57 PM
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There will only be one authorized religion in the last days. Everyone will be forced to worship the beast and receive his mark. The vast majority will not only accept this fact but they will also be proud to be apart of it. Sounds insane when you consider it but in time it will make sense.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:58 PM
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So will the Jehovah's witness religious rebellion be the start of that Civil War that John Titor predicted next year?

Nonsense. Religion never causes civil unrest, let alone war.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:11 PM
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I have heard this every couple years since I was a kid and its always been a hoax. I am not very religious myself but I would never support something like that and doubt if 75% of ther world would either. To much of the world belongs to one religion or another.

By the way the JWs also thought the world was gonna end several years ago and that didnt happen either.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Simulacra
Nonsense. Religion never causes civil unrest, let alone war.


Yopu have got to be kidding


Intrepid what year was that the world was susposed to end?



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:15 PM
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I was married to someone who became a witness. I am a witch of sorts and so we are no longer together. However he did show me a picture of a building he said was already a church of the UN. I believe he said it was in New York, not positive though. He said that they would claim religion to be the cause of most wars and they wouldn't be wrong about that. So it would be a religion that tried to incorporate the beliefs of many religions and then the rest would be banned on the premise of Global Security.

I can see if this is true how people could be mislead and be proud of their affiliation with this religion. He also pointed to comments made by Bush about religion. Things like "I don't care if people worship under a cross or a cresent moon." I can't remember the others, but the point was, he felt that Bush was trying to soften peoples hearts to believing that it doesn't matter who or what you worship as long as you worship. And, that Bush would try to lead people into this religion sort of slowly, allowing it to incidiously find its way into the public eye with just a nudge or two from him. I personally have no idea if there is such a church if if my ex is off his rocker.... But he seems like a nice guy!



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk

Intrepid what year was that the world was susposed to end?


1975.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:19 PM
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MOre than likely the will make Islam the world religion So they can stop the destruction .



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:23 PM
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uhmmm

I clicked on that link and it says in big red letters:

"Alert: Listeners and Readers: The UN was contacted and they say this is a HOAX!"

So yeah, I guess thats about right.

UN can't just ban religion. They are a nice idealistic concept and an administrative nightmare with very limited authority. Every decision has to be aproved by the "big ones" in security council. And we all know Bush speaks personaly with Jesus so I doubt he will ban his bestest buddy



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk
I have heard this every couple years since I was a kid and its always been a hoax. I am not very religious myself but I would never support something like that and doubt if 75% of ther world would either. To much of the world belongs to one religion or another.

By the way the JWs also thought the world was gonna end several years ago and that didnt happen either.


what excuse did JW use to justify that 29 years later the world is still intact?



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:30 PM
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Human error in interpretation of scripture.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Human error in interpretation of scripture.


So when is the JW scheduled 'End of the World' going to take place? I don't want to be late for it.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 02:35 PM
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when all the signs are in place, the end will come.

If you don't think the UN can BAN religion, you haven't read--

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2000_UNESCO_REDEFINE_FAMILY.--UNESCO's, "World Core Curriculum"

UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, was established in 1945 to disseminate educational, cultural and scientific materials deemed essential for establishing toleration and peace. During the Reagan administration, the U.S. pulled out of UNESCO, charging the agency with rampant waste and fraud, and a hard-left pro-Soviet slant. Sharing many of these concerns, Great Britain also withdrew from UNESCO at about the same time.

Prior to his decision to rejoin UNESCO, President Bush reached out to social conservatives, and was warned that many groups were increasingly concerned with UNESCO's ongoing support of the UN's radical social agenda. UNESCO collaborates with the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) and its main Non Government Organization (NGO) partner, the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF). In line with these groups, UNESCO now advocates for reproductive health services for children. In UN parlance, reproductive health services includes abortion. For instance, one UNESCO document praises Thailand's provision of abortion-causing "emergency contraceptives" to children as an "innovative strategy."

UNESCO is also a proponent of the International Guidelines on HIV/AIDS and Human Rights, a document written by UNAIDS and the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights. The document calls on governments to ensure a right to safe and legal abortion, to legalize same-sex marriages, to legalize prostitution, and to provide graphic sexual and homosexual education to children. The document also seeks the establishment of "criminal penalties" for people engaged in speech construed to be a "vilification" of homosexuality.

In the name of AIDS-reduction, UNESCO has fully embraced reproductive and sex education. In concert with UNAIDS and UNFPA, UNESCO has created curricula that many social conservatives would believe undermine parental authority, show disdain for traditional cultures and religious worldviews, and introduce dishonesty into education. A great deal of UNESCO's other educational materials fall squarely in the camp of political correctness, endorsing liberal stances on such issues as gender and environmentalism.

In 1982, the UN (UNESCO) adopted Robert Muller's World Core Curriculum as a model for all nations to follow. Robert Muller, former United Nations Assistant Secretary General, wrote the "World Core Curriculum." Broadly speaking, the World Core Curriculum is a tetrahedron based on 4 primary components:

Our Planetary Home and Our Place in the Universe,
Our Place in Time,
The Family of Humanity, and
The Miracle of Individual Life.

Muller, adopted ideas for his Curriculum from questionable philosophies espoused by the founders of the Theosophical society in pre-revolutionary Russia. The objective of Muller's Curriculum is to produce an egalitarian society, working cooperatively, in harmony, without competition or strife, and without individual thought or opinion.

More significantly, the Curriculum advocates taking away the student's early childhood and family influence--replace it with a "global family." He suggests that education of a child should start at birth and be oriented to the "macrocosm" and that early family influences somehow promote "an egocentric mind set" and will result in a negative or undesirable outcome. In other words, the influence of the traditional family must be abolished for the good of society. Our modern Outcome Based Education curriculums and the U.S. Goals 2000 closely resemble the guidelines of the World Core Curriculum.

Recognizing the fact that under "Treaty (or Convention) Law" America's participation in UNESCO brings with it the "treaty requirement" that America adopt and implement UNESCO's World Core Curriculum.

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*********** [my opinion]

They don't have to >BAN< it. They simply contradict every value inherent in religion in [free public] state school curricula from K-12.

When five-year-olds are taught that "two daddies" or "two mommies" are just as valid defining "a family" as a man and a woman, they are going to have a hard time going home to church and God-devotional parents and making sense out of what their parents know.

I believe the Witnesses are correct. I was a Witness from 1965 to 1978; and it was just about 1975 that the world ended, as a confederation of sovereign states to be replaced by Globalist mechanics and dialectics.

Notice, George Bush SENIOR is a big fan of the Moonies because they pretend to be inclusive, as for example Wiccans do; yet their allowed behaviors are extremely narrow indeed--totalitarian.

This is a snapshot of the world--speaking nice generalizations but leering at individual behavior with a rigid sense of what a person can appropriately do. Thought Control.

Yeah, Witnesses are that bound that tight also. And the tendency for one [group] to condemn others [groups] that do what they do is also noted.

Chai



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 02:39 PM
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isnt UN and NWO all about combining all religions into one religion like a big happy masonic lodge?!!!! then the beast comes and says im god etc etc?
its nothing about banning religion, or are the jhv witnesses right?



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 02:50 PM
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Based on realities inherent in the UNESCO public school curricula, I feel the JWs are making a true prediction.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by paperclip
And we all know Bush speaks personaly with Jesus so I doubt he will ban his bestest buddy


No one said all religion would be banned....Just all but the UN religion. I'm sure they would keep "his bestest buddy" around in their religious conglomerate. They would have to in order for it to be accepted, and they know that.

Oh yea, I remembered another quote from Bush used to support my ex's theory... Bush said something like Christians and Muslims worship the same God. Does that sound familliar?





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