Morality Is Relevant

The election of 2004 proves my premise that America is a Good and Decent Nation. The liberal agenda that has been allowed to have its way like the "Spoiled Child It Is" has finally been spanked and put in its place. From now on it does not matter so much what you and I think but what Jehovah God thinks and is preparing for this country.

Jehovah God has declared that we will not tolerate the wholesale Murder of innocent babies any longer because it is Amoral to continue this acceptable barbaric act to justify a lifestyle for those who use Abortion on Demand to relieve themselves of an embarrasing lifestyle that they will not restrain themselves from and force society to deal with their indiscretions and poor judgement. The promiscus activity of irresponsible adults and un-trained children will not be tolerated any longer un-challenged. If for no other reason the costs economically would demand a change across the board in our moral thinking. I am not reccommending legislating morality either just a true assessment of how we have chosen to live. This election brings to the RED FOREFRONT that morals do count for something in this country and this is part and parcel why the un-American liberals and socialists suffered this scathing defeat!

The liberal left is to blame for just about everything we are struggling with as a Free Nation. The littany of problems is shared by both sides of the aisle in Congress. Arlen Specter represents the liberal rats more than he does his own chosen party and he will be dealt a losing hand for his un-American activities by a growing awareness of the public electorate. Dinosaurs like him and Teddy Kennedy and their ilk are soon to be retired and delivered to the garbage heap where they belong.

Aged Americans will no longer be used as political fodder and treated shamlessly by Amoral Lying Socialist Politicians and be made to feel threattened in their later productive years. Social Security will be reformed and return back to do what it was originally envisioned to deliver to America. Social Security; was for those of you who have conveniently forgot originally designed to stabilize the Family Unit by providing aid to dependent children and take care of Widows and Orphans until they could grow up and join society and become productive citizens once again.

The liberal agenda that has been loosed upon us has also created a virrulent form of sado massochist homosexuals who have tried and failed to lead this country down a Black Hole , pun intended! The homosexual agenda that is operating in the open is plain and simple an, ABOMINATION not my words but straight from Jehovah God! This Lifestyle comes from both sides of the aisle and spreads its deadly disease AIDS to all parts of this nation! The economic costs involved with controlling this politically correct lifestyle disease and others that are linked genetically will become un calculable in the near term future. "HOMOSEXUAILITY IS A LEARNED LIFESTYLE" ; the biggest lie of all is that you are born that way. This liberal hooey comes straight out of the "PIT OF HELL" and this is exactly where you are headed if you refuse to repent of your wicked and perverse lifestyle! Homosexuals destroy the quality of life for all of us by polluting the blood supply we all one day may need to depend on. Hepatitis follows closely as well as drug resistant tuberculosis that is prevalent in the adherants of this Sortid Festering Amoral Lifestyle they have chosen.

Jehovah God as the President rightly stated intends MARRIAGE to reflect a union of ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. Homosexuals can produce only confusion and a empty useless non productive time here on earth. This lifestyle that joins "Adam & Bruce" or "SALLY & SUZI" will be sorted out in the Pit of Hell. The RED MAP of this election is graphic proof that the liberal lifestyle and thinking is not "MAINSTREAM IN AMERICA"!

I am not a "RELIGIOUS HOMOPHOBE" I am a Christian GOD fearing citizen who believes in Freedom and Justice for all rulled by commonsense and and Morality. I did not vote for George W. Bush because he is a work in progress and he has a long way to go for me to approve of him and his agenda. Like many if they would be true to themselves I voted against the Un-American Communist Stooge and the Wicked Witch of The East! Morals do count in America and I believe the right man is elected only because another patriotic challenger was not availiable. The conscience of America was pricked and now our job is to finish this work in progress if we can by solving the desire to give Amnesty to Criminal Illegal Aliens and by the way this is the single most reason I voted against John Kerry because neither one knows how to slip this by the voting Tax Paying Citizens who foot the bills in over taxed America.

whoa, thats some deep shi*!!!

Winker is entitled to his or her opinion, no matter how violently I disagree with it.

Just keep that brand of Christianity south of the border. I don't want it in Canada.

I refuse to have religion crammed down my throat.

Originally posted by winker
I did not vote for George W. Bush because he is a work in progress and he has a long way to go for me to approve of him and his agenda. Like many if they would be true to themselves I voted against the Un-American Communist Stooge and the Wicked Witch of The East! Morals do count in America and I believe the right man is elected only because another patriotic challenger was not availiable. The conscience of America was pricked and now our job is to finish this work in progress if we can by solving the desire to give Amnesty to Criminal Illegal Aliens and by the way this is the single most reason I voted against John Kerry because neither one knows how to slip this by the voting Tax Paying Citizens who foot the bills in over taxed America.

Just a note, I highly doubt this person is a Jehovah's Witness. They don't vote at all and do not put any effort into politics.

I'm going to quote myself from another thread here, then I'm going to clue you in on something...

Originally posted by twitchy
Who's religon, yours? What if it were president Ali Baba, or President Moonie, or President L. Ron Hubbard? What would you think then? Religon and morality are two different things entirely, and they have no business making policies that govern a multicultural nation. Take your morals to church, and leave them at home, don't legislate my morals, I might like abortion and pornography for example. There is a reason we have a seperation of church and state, one of those reasons is to keep high and mighty puritanistic garbage out of people's lives.

Maybe your morals are something I don't give a damn about. Maybe I wake up every morning and pray to Captain Caveman then look at nude pictures while I chant Scooby Doo theme songs and call it prayer, but while I practice my beliefs, and you practice yours, the government has no business legislating anything to do with either your morals or mine. we pay our government to pave the roads adn school our children, not to mandate your sense of morality, or any one elses. Morality comes from rearing, not legislation. They act in the interest of the people of this country, not in the interests of your religous clap trap. Would you like it if you had to stand up and say a pledge every morning that included under captain caveman? Maybe some people like being gay, or maybe some people like captain caveman, maybe some people like knowing they don't have to answer to people like you in their legal system. You can swarp your bible around all you want, but let's keep that crap out of our government.

From now on it does not matter so much what you and I think but what Jehovah God thinks and is preparing for this country.

O.K., your post totally freaked me out. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but please don't expect or attempt to convert any of us to your way of thinking.

I'm glad that you clarified that you did not vote for GWB because I would hate people to think that your thoughts are representative of those of use who DID vote for Bush.

Jemison

I guess I am supposed to be shaking and quaking all over but Jehovah God is not mocked or addled and whether or not you believe there is a HELL or not; it does exist and unless you repent you will blink your bloodshot eyes and wake up there. By the way he like me is not impressed with your nationality either; he looks into the "HEART" of the matter. Eternity is not negotiable, its for keeps one way or the other its for all the marbles kiddies!

I'm positive now, the JW's don't believe in Hell.

I agree with Otts - Winkler is entitled to express his opinion, but I am curious about several things he said and hope he will expand on them.

Originally posted by winker
Jehovah God has declared that we will not tolerate the wholesale Murder of innocent babies any longer because it is Amoral to continue this acceptable barbaric act to justify a lifestyle for those who use Abortion on
The liberal left is to blame for just about everything we are struggling with as a Free Nation.

Does your contempt include fertility treatments that prepare a number of fertilized embryos for couples unable to conceive?

... This Lifestyle comes from both sides of the aisle and spreads its deadly disease AIDS to all parts of this nation! The economic costs involved with controlling this politically correct lifestyle disease and others that are linked genetically will become un calculable in the near term future. "HOMOSEXUAILITY IS A LEARNED LIFESTYLE" ; the biggest lie of all is that you are born that way.

Are you implying that a disease has a sexual preference - that it was meant to only affect a certain segment of the population? What is your basis for making the claim that homosexuality is a "learned behavior?"

Jehovah God as the President rightly stated intends MARRIAGE to reflect a union of ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. Homosexuals can produce only confusion and a empty useless non productive time here on earth.

If empty useless non-productivity is a criteria - should fertility be a requirement before the issuance of a marriage license?

And my last question - do you believe that biblical law supercedes Constitutional law?

B.

Originally posted by winker
I guess I am supposed to be shaking and quaking all over but Jehovah God is not mocked or addled and whether or not you believe there is a HELL or not; it does exist and unless you repent you will blink your bloodshot eyes and wake up there.

Well you talk like you have seen hell or know where to find it, my dear "Jehovah" follower, will you be so kind to show me a link or a picture of you hell please. I got pleanty of pictures of hell I can show you from bush war in Iraq.

Jehovah told me that he is very angry with you for using his name in vane, so it said to tell you that he is going to show you hell for real.

By the way this is a joke and anybody is entitle to their own delusional believes even mine are as delusional as Mr. Jehovah here, I apologized I mean Mr. winky.

By the way Mr. winky I have seen the other side has you?

And for the thread yes I agree that morals are important to keep the nation healthy and for control but not for political gain to mislead the weak minded.


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Winker, it may come as a shock to you, but I do believe in a higher purpose, a supreme being, and an afterlife, but in my beliefs, I also am not so blind as to be ignorant of the atrocities commited in the name of righteousness. I know the hypocrisy inherent in claiming high morality of my own as I berate or deman those around for not sharing those views. You drag this kind of crap into the government, people die. Religon, unto itself is not wrong or evil, but pushing it on others who may or may not give a damn what you believe is wrong. What if your religon was a minority? What if Captain Cavemanism thought it was immoral to eat with your hands, would you bury your face in your plate to suit them? Would you be happy when it became law that you had to? Come out and see the light my man, puritainism ended in the 1700's. We have to actually, you know, share this country with captain cavemanists, and any number of folks that may not agree with you. You aren't going to save anyone by opressing them, I promise you that.

Originally posted by winker

Aged Americans will no longer be used as political fodder and treated shamlessly by Amoral Lying Socialist Politicians and be made to feel threattened in their later productive years. Social Security will be reformed and return back to do what it was originally envisioned to deliver to America. Social Security; was for those of you who have conveniently forgot originally designed to stabilize the Family Unit by providing aid to dependent children and take care of Widows and Orphans until they could grow up and join society and become productive citizens once again.

First off isn�t this by definition a social program?


Secondly from what all these die hard Christians have been saying recently all the intolerant prejudice people are going to heaven and the non prejudice tolerant people are headed for hell. At least I�ll have good company where I�m going.

Just so we all understand each other when I said I did not vote for President Bush for the stated reason it should not mean that he did not get my vote and by the way since you are wondering I am Assembly of God second and a Christian first and formost just for the record! Stay out of tall building with low balconies I feel your rabid pain! Blessings from the winners yall !

Originally posted by winker
Stay out of tall building with low balconies I feel your rabid pain! Blessings from the winners yall !

I dont need any blessing from so called winners. thank you

Agitator - if all the people these Christian extremists say will go to Hell actually do go there, it must be a crowded place.

And I have to wonder about a god who sends 95 percent of his own creation to Hell. Must be a very angry and flawed god if he's unable to keep from destroying what he created.

I don't think that god is the Christian God.

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Who knows, maybe Hell is crammed with fundamentalist evangelicals now repenting that they spread hate and ruined lives in the name of some bogus 'morality'.

Originally posted by ubermunche
Who knows, maybe Hell is crammed with fundamentalist evangelicals now repenting that they spread hate and ruined lives in the name of some bogus 'morality'.

Hahaha, that's funny. But the morality might or might not be bogus, but it might be more correct to say bogus 'mentality'.

No one likes a condesending Christians, especially since they are supposed to be the polar opposite.

OOPS, forgot to be Christians there for a sec, while I was spreading the Gospel.

First of all in respect to fertilized embryos The Brave new World you envision tampers with something Jehovah God intended mankind not to tinker around with. God makes no mistakes and is forever truthful in his dealings. Man on the other hand is just smart enough to get himself in trouble but not to get him out of it un-scathed. The world was replenishing itself just fine until impatience and liberals thought they had a better plan!


Homosexuality has never been proved to be anything "BUT" learned behavior. The debate is full of conjecture and weird science and faulty theories! This is only a politically correct disease ignorant un-careing people follow to the pit of hell!


Marry for love and companionship, Children are a blessing to cherish not to discard like trash. Children teach you responsibility, don't view them as a embarrassment or a product of an illicit lifestyle.


Nothing is higher than Biblical Law! My family structure is Jehovah God first Family second Constitutional Law third and job fourth