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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
Meth does ruin your teeth. I grew up in a area where meth was everyone's "drug of choice". You could tell people were tweekers based on their teeth and their skin. I never even tired it because I seen the side effects first hand.
I had a former friend to whom I went to school with, he eventually dropped out. I seen him a couple years laters, he was obviously using. He and I began to talk then i noticed his teeth and had to ask "wtf was up with that?" He replied that he smokes meth and it's common.
So I seen this first hand many times. He wasn't they only person I grew up with that started using and eventually became a "criminal" over a drug. Needless to say, it's bad for every part of you.
So if this is this a violation of T&S mods, but I felt it needed to be said.
-SAP-edit on 31-5-2013 by SloAnPainful because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadyofGlass
reply to post by research100
From my own anecdotal evidence from meth users I met they almost always start out on some other stimulating drug and are usually resistant to the other drug when they initially use it. They also come from some type of mentally/physically abusive background.
Originally posted by MysterX
Tooth decay aside, what the hell makes these people use meth or diet soda drinks?
I mean...it's not like it's a secret what the filth does to the body is it.
I'd have to be incredibly thirsty and have no access to any other drink before i drank diet soda or anything containing sweetener poisons.
And while i might be slightly eccentric, i'd have to be completely raving bonkers to use meth.
Just say no thank you..because being healthy doesn't have to mean being impolite!
Originally posted by research100
+I don't get it with stuff like meth either. That first time they decide to use it, wtf are they thinking, what is the thought process? it boggles my mind....
Originally posted by LadyofGlass
reply to post by BanTv
Street meth and Adderal although in the same family are not exactly the same as far as chemical composition. It's also not necessary to be rude in regard to something especially if you aren't going to be very specific, like providing a chemical breakdown. My post very clearly stated that my evidence was anecdotal, meaning it was in no way a theory but based on personal experience.
When I state "meth" I am referring to the drug that includes "Methyl" in it's chemical composition...i.e. street meth. Meth has methyl in it's structure amphetamine doesn't that's why the latter doesn't have the "meth" portion in title. Methyl is the ingredient that allows the drug to quickly run the brain in the street version.
Ritalin is again comprised of many of the same things but doesn't have the exact structure that street meth has. This may not sound like a big but even slight changes in a chemical structure have profound effects on how a drug interacts with the body. Now does that mean that I don't think Adderall and Ritalin are harmful and addicting? Of course not, but those are not the drugs I was referring to in my post.
I really like this website as it gives more of a breakdown. You can research it anywhere though as long as it has the chemical breakdown. Also when using this just select drug from drop down and you can compare them side by side, kinda gives a visual to otherwise difficult to understand chemistry.
www.erowid.org... e_2d.gif
edit on 3-6-2013 by LadyofGlass because: causeedit on 3-6-2013 by LadyofGlass because: editedit on 3-6-2013 by LadyofGlass because: add
Originally posted by LadyofGlass
reply to post by BanTv
Please reread my first post in regard to me explaining anecdotal evidence based on my own experiences with meth users I have encountered. Anecdotal is not a universal statement or experience it is based entirely on my own experiences of meth users I have personally met, that's why I put it.
Originally posted by LadyofGlass
reply to post by BanTv
Please construct your sentences differently if that is the case. Your post implied that I had made a theory, which I did not. I posted my own anecdotal experience. You also stated that I was leaving two other "meth" drugs out, which again was not the case as the drug I was referring to was Methamphetamine which is an illegal street drug that actually includes methyl. The drug is/was also the drug included in the title not Ritalin or Adderall, neither of which are Methamphetamine. The common usage in our language for "Meth" is the street drug Methamphetamine. That's why you don't hear people say "I rubbed Meth on my sore muscles this morning!".
Just to backtrack
From my own anecdotal evidence from meth users I met they almost always start out on some other stimulating drug and are usually resistant to the other drug when they initially use it. They also come from some type of mentally/physically abusive background.
and
Like perhaps all the legal meth doctors prescribe kids? You know, Ritalin and Adderall. Doctor approved speed for kids, gotta love it. Your abuse theory is 100% wrong though. Not all addicts are victims of abuse. That is ridiculous.
I am ending this discussion.
To the topic: I will make one other point which is to keep in mind that bad habits are usually friends with other bad habits. I haven't seen anything indicating a genuine test group excluding all other rational explanations. If anyone has information on this I would be really interested in reading it if you have link/source.edit on 3-6-2013 by LadyofGlass because: typo
Originally posted by an0nThinker
reply to post by fr33kSh0w2012
Instead of poisoning yourself try to just get a 5 gallon jar 15$ish plus 5 gallons reverse osmosis water for 25 to 40c a gallon from most grocery stores. If not costco usually has RO machines for 150$ so does amazon..