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A Message from Anonymous UK to the English Defense League

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posted on May, 29 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by sparky31

Originally posted by dam00
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Riot you say!
But no footage
1 video is here, www.youtube.com... there was 1 on sky news for just other day at protest at the lee rigby killing,we are all 1 in this world and skin color or religion does not make a difference in my eyes.


Thats one video of one demo (and quite an old one at that)

and a bunch of Idiots going mental around one stray police van at one demo does not make a UK riot in my eyes




posted on May, 29 2013 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by spacedog1973
Hilarious. The EDL exposed, humiliated and lectured to all in one swoop. Probably by a teenager in a few minutes of his spare time. Completely spot on of course.

And no surprise, the closet racists to which this site they have immigrated to are butt hurt. Well, tough.
edit on 29-5-2013 by spacedog1973 because: (no reason given)


The list is mainly of people who have made donations, not some amazing feet of of hi tech wizardry that has taken photos of active members at demos or comiting alleged hate crimes, donators possibly the elderly who are powerless to do anything about what is happening to there country

yes tee-hee hilarious



posted on May, 29 2013 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by dam00

Originally posted by sparky31

Originally posted by dam00
reply to post by sparky31
 


Riot you say!
But no footage
1 video is here, www.youtube.com... there was 1 on sky news for just other day at protest at the lee rigby killing,we are all 1 in this world and skin color or religion does not make a difference in my eyes.


Thats one video of one demo (and quite an old one at that)

and a bunch of Idiots going mental around one stray police van at one demo does not make a UK riot in my eyes
i,m glad u said a bunch of idiots,oh yeah its just 1 video but its cool it was their first time trying it,give them a chance and i,m sure they,ll work out how to do it more discreet.....couldn,t make it up.



posted on May, 29 2013 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by sparky31

Originally posted by dam00

Originally posted by sparky31

Originally posted by dam00
reply to post by sparky31
 


Riot you say!
But no footage
1 video is here, www.youtube.com... there was 1 on sky news for just other day at protest at the lee rigby killing,we are all 1 in this world and skin color or religion does not make a difference in my eyes.


Thats one video of one demo (and quite an old one at that)

and a bunch of Idiots going mental around one stray police van at one demo does not make a UK riot in my eyes
i,m glad u said a bunch of idiots,oh yeah its just 1 video but its cool it was their first time trying it,give them a chance and i,m sure they,ll work out how to do it more discreet.....couldn,t make it up.


So far all you have produced is video from one early demo, I have my suspisions the nutter on top of the police van is either an anti-facist infiltrator and his friends or a rival nationalist group trying to discredit the EDL because of what is refered to as civic nationalism



posted on May, 29 2013 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by tinner07
reply to post by dam00
 

Heres my problem with villinizing the EDL...

The EDL are mostly British men who have grown up in their respective towns and over the years watched the influx of muslim immigrants try to take over.

In my opinion the EDL is no more a hate group than the muslim community in large is. They are just British folk proud of their heritage and protesting against what they dont like happening. Isnt that their right???

They are'nt killing people... they are'nt causing riots. Wherever they demonstrate their rights the police have to show up because of the mostly muslim counter protesters that get violent.

You can't tell me that the Muslim community isn't quick to point out things that offend them....but chastise another group for pointing out that which offends them?

It is'nt the EDL that institutes the violence, its the counter protesters



Well you paint a false picture.

I'm a poor, working class, white guy. I do NOT support the EDL.

First and foremost I don't trust this guy

en.wikipedia.org...


Lennon uses the alias "Tommy Robinson", taking the name of a prominent member of the "Men In Gear" (MIG) football hooligan crew, which follows Luton Town Football Club. The real Robinson wrote two books, published in 2006 and 2007, which give an inside perspective of his own life and of those around him.[10] Robinson was involved in the group United Peoples of Luton, formed in response to a March 2009 protest against Royal Anglian Regiment troops returning from the Afghan War[11] organised by the Islamist group Al-Muhajiroun and including members of the group Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah.[12][13] In August 2009, he became the leading figure of the newly established English Defence League. He appeared masked in public at first, until the Sunday Mercury newspaper managed to photograph his face in April 2010.[14]


His main alias is based on the name of a FOOTBALL HOOLIGAN.

The 'leader'.

Secondly, I'm completely aware of racial crime on all levels in regard to a multitude of reasons (gangs, drugs, xenophobia, racism, mental illness, social faults, media hype, hate crime, etc etc etc) this also applies to a multitude of other social grievances such as homophobia, sexual discrimination, religious intolerance, ill-gained indoctrinated beliefs of all kinds ranging from hooliganism, fascism, pseudo-anarchism etc.

The EDL are NOT setting a good example. If they represent the common working class white man, then where do I stand?

They engage in racist profiling, discriminatory activities, violence, social disorder and vandalism to name just a few of their so called 'defensive activities of England'. None of which I choose to adhere to.

They attacked the police on the night of the recent murder of Lee Rigby. They have recently unleashed indiscriminate attacks on asian people of all nations and beliefs all across the country and have been a intimidating rallying point for such far right gatherings in otherwise generally peaceful towns and cities.

No they do NOT represent the working class white man.



posted on May, 29 2013 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by dam00

Originally posted by sparky31

Originally posted by dam00

Originally posted by sparky31

Originally posted by dam00
reply to post by sparky31
 


Riot you say!
But no footage
1 video is here, www.youtube.com... there was 1 on sky news for just other day at protest at the lee rigby killing,we are all 1 in this world and skin color or religion does not make a difference in my eyes.


Thats one video of one demo (and quite an old one at that)

and a bunch of Idiots going mental around one stray police van at one demo does not make a UK riot in my eyes
i,m glad u said a bunch of idiots,oh yeah its just 1 video but its cool it was their first time trying it,give them a chance and i,m sure they,ll work out how to do it more discreet.....couldn,t make it up.


So far all you have produced is video from one early demo, I have my suspisions the nutter on top of the police van is either an anti-facist infiltrator and his friends or a rival nationalist group trying to discredit the EDL because of what is refered to as civic nationalism
1 video is enough,i could go pull a hundred videos out and its obvious you wouldn,t be happy with the evidence,like mr lizard says i am a working white class man and i,m embarrassed with this edl,as i said no matter the color of ur skin we were all born the same,why is there this stupid divided?they try say its to do with immigration but we all know its cause the color of the skin......mean don,t see these kind of things happening with polish,spanish,french etc.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 03:34 AM
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I do not like the EDL either. But they are brainwashed sheeple... Believing what they are told to believe. I preferred the method of the Muslims that offered the EDL tea and cake and a chat. I think that is a much more constructive way of dealing with the matter. Yes Anonymous is a unique and powerful movement of which I agree with many of its Operations.. However I think maybe a personal face to face heart to heart conversation is what these people need... We need to help them see the light.

That is my perspective anyhoo...



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 03:55 AM
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The EDL are just a symptom of the larger problem. They were a reaction to the extreme Islam being preached in certain Mosques in parts of the UK. That is a legitimate concern.

However, it ends up not just being about extremist Islam, they targeted the occupy movement in London and seem to have a problem with anyone to the left of Mussolini. Which suggest they are more of a fascist movement, than a single issue protest group.

Once they've dealt with the Muslim extremists, who would be next?



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 03:57 AM
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Anonymous dont you have better things to do?

Why waste time and effort with a protest group no one takes seriously?



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 05:55 AM
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So the EDL protest against the terror being carried-out against the English people by Muslims and THEY are the baddies? Me thinks Anon has joined the ranks of the racists who want to destroy the English as a nation. Mind you, anyone who thinks hacking into private networks is good, has real ethical issues to start with.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 06:39 AM
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I agree. They have published a list of EDL members details online. Why are they not publishing the details of radical muslims in the UK who insight racial hatred toward the UK population. I don't count myself as a racist but this needs to stop. I live in Oldham and have witnessed first hand how the Asian communities here have had a population explosion. To see schools go from predominantly white to predominantly Asian. To have a feeling that you are being squeezed out of your own town. I was calm before reading this thread, but now i am so mad. So yes i can see why the EDL are being brought to the forefront at the moment.They are just speaking for the majority that are too scared to stand up and be seen. They are not afraid to say what thousands are thinking. I know i am going to get a backlash for this but who cares anymore.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by tinner07
reply to post by dam00
 

Heres my problem with villinizing the EDL...

The EDL are mostly British men who have grown up in their respective towns and over the years watched the influx of muslim immigrants try to take over.

In my opinion the EDL is no more a hate group than the muslim community in large is. They are just British folk proud of their heritage and protesting against what they dont like happening. Isnt that their right???

They are'nt killing people... they are'nt causing riots. Wherever they demonstrate their rights the police have to show up because of the mostly muslim counter protesters that get violent.

You can't tell me that the Muslim community isn't quick to point out things that offend them....but chastise another group for pointing out that which offends them?

It is'nt the EDL that institutes the violence, its the counter protesters




I presume you are a little EDL enclined, i have a family member who is police, he is part of the police presence at Riots down mid england, i can say without a doubt that he fully believes the EDL are much more likley to cause trouble and kick off than the other side of the fence...

so you facts may be based on info you have heard, or stuff you have seen or things you may believe in your very core, but i can 100% from the words of a man who police's these clashes say that what you believe is false.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by DarkRift
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I agree. They have published a list of EDL members details online. Why are they not publishing the details of radical muslims in the UK who insight racial hatred toward the UK population. I don't count myself as a racist but this needs to stop. I live in Oldham and have witnessed first hand how the Asian communities here have had a population explosion. To see schools go from predominantly white to predominantly Asian. To have a feeling that you are being squeezed out of your own town. I was calm before reading this thread, but now i am so mad. So yes i can see why the EDL are being brought to the forefront at the moment.They are just speaking for the majority that are too scared to stand up and be seen. They are not afraid to say what thousands are thinking. I know i am going to get a backlash for this but who cares anymore.


I dont agree.. first i dont know why you feel you are being "squeezed out YOUR OWN TOWN"
you live in on a little bit of land on a little bit of land and other humans and cultures and beliefs are all around you, just like it has always been throughout the history of the UK, thousands and thousands of imegrants come, settle, brign there veiws, beliefs and culture, people may get annoyed but eventually it gets accepted and the "new uk" comes out of it a little different than before, once people stop fearing others strange ways and understand all our ways are strange and embrace what goes on around you then you'll feel less like you are being forced away and more like you are part of the community around you, im not dsaying changing your clothes, or religon or diet, just open your mind to what others around you think and feel, usually you will be treated the same in return.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 07:52 AM
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EDL bring shame to this country. They are a laughing stock for most civilised human beings. But their use of a mans death in this instance to further their agenda has been quite a sickening display of ethicless hatred.

Here's a little quote from edlnews (a counter edl news place) This young man wants to slaughter muslims...

As much as we are saddened by yesterday's news from Woolwich, we feel it is more important than ever to keep tabs on extremists on the far right. Meet Tony Munday aka Tony Perrin from Croydon. A boxer who posts pictures of himself with a gun

edlnews.co.uk...

I can't quote much more, as the rest of it is his facebook post threatening terrotist acts. Talk about becoming that which you hate the most. These people are a terrorist threat, they are knee jerk reactionaries, and they don't do themselves any favours, like ever. (they constantly humilliate themselves on an almost daily basis, just keep an eye on that link I posted for edl related fun and games)



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 07:55 AM
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Bumping this Thread to get rid of the Threads on Homos and Gays!!

They are same anyway but nevermind, you know what I mean. Down to BTS with those Threads!!

As for EDL, well... I have seen some Racist thugs involved with the Group but I dont think all members of the Group are Racist!

Its the same as Grouping all 'Muslims' as Terrorists, yet you want EDL to be shut down. I think you are one of those who come and say the complete opposite when its ALL the Muslims should be sent home or the Religion kicked out but you come and say 'no, that shouldnt happen'.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 10:28 AM
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This is complete nonsense.

First off look at the EDL leaderships' list of criminal convictions - violence and racial abuse feature heavily, they're all ex/current footy firm guys. These people aren't intellectuals or defenders of democracy, they meet up solely to get drunk and start fights.

They don't talk for white working class males - I'm one and a bunch of beer soaked hooligans who can't spell and spread hate represent me as much as a bunch of beard cloaked hooligans who spread hate.

They do incite riots - look at the guy who defaced the war memorial or any of the hundreds of vids out there on youtube www.itv.com...

Counter demonstrators aren't predominantly Muslim - there's people from all faiths, classes, sects etc.. involved who don't want these knuckle-draggers claiming they 'speak for them'.

Yes not every member of the EDL is a racist, they're just plain stupid.


edit on 30-5-2013 by bastion because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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The far right is on the march in europe, one of the first politians to lead this march was geert wilders in holland back around 2003, hollands tv was very liberal ie lots of if not porn very close to porn, 2003 saw the start of europes tv start to look like american tv, very monlitic and censored, geert first sucessful attack was to link the censorship with muslims ie they complained about sex this that and the other and everybodies freedom was at risk......since then television has now been dominated by rupert murdochs sky and the reality was they wanted to censore stuff so they could bring in pay tv....which they have, anybody with a real satelite system can see the massive changes that were pushed through with out any debate or opposition, its also interesting to note the bbc did an investigation of wilders and found a big part of his financing came from tel aviv in israel , same country that rupert murdoch holds a passport too,willing to bet the edf gets alot of its financing through similar channels.......its amazing how fast you can control ideas, morals, even emotions when you own the media and how fast they are accepted by people who dont have any of there own.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Blister
So the EDL protest against the terror being carried-out against the English people by Muslims and THEY are the baddies? Me thinks Anon has joined the ranks of the racists who want to destroy the English as a nation. Mind you, anyone who thinks hacking into private networks is good, has real ethical issues to start with.


Breaking the law with political motivation falls under the remit of activism or in this case hacktavism. There is nothing wrong with breaking the law to stand up for something you belief in. It can be a very empowering act.



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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There is nothing wrong with breaking the law to stand up for something you belief in.


And there is the most stupid comment I have ever seen in all my life

Some believe
A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
A man can beat his wife for insubordination.

these are all against the law in my country, empowering! it kind of make my skin crawl



posted on May, 30 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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The Fusiliers association have posted this in response to EDL members trying to get vets to come to the protests.



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