Hello Simulacra,

To bad ya couldnt make it.. plus ya never got back with me on ur relitives that live nearby.. or was tht not you??

mark evans says:

"and, if you care to see for yourself.. come to Bloomington, no garuntee one will show up."

You expect people to travel across the United States to see something that you have no evidence of? You planning on refunding our money if nothing shows up?

"...but how can ya be soooo sure?? without facts?"

I can't be sure without facts -- and you certainly haven't provided us with any facts.. All I have to base my beliefs on are facts and evidence, and I don't see any evidence to support your or your friend's assertions.

"screw it i know why i havnt been here for soo long..."

I don't think people disbelieve you because you haven't been here for so long; my guess is that we don't believe you because you haven't given us any reason to.

"WHERES YOUR PROOF!! and john and i both have proof on the sightings its called video... wheres yours??"

What proof do I need? I'm not the one trying to convince anyone, you are! And I hardly consider your videos of proof of anything; I gather no one else here does, either.

"...and hell man.. he was hunting.. you ever been hunting?? if so do ya take a camera with you??"

As a matter of fact, I do take a camera with me, since I go deer hunting (in places like the North Rim of the Canyon) where there's a lot of beautiful scenery. But whether or not I take a camera or you take a camera or your friend takes a camera is irrelevant.

The bottom line is that you have made a bunch of assertions and expect us to buy into them, and there is no evidence for them, and you seem to get upset when all we do is ask for reasonable evidence.

"idiots i swear"

I do not foresee you having a good time and an advantageous sharing of ideas on this forum, given your apparent bad mood and excitability.

Originally posted by Off_The_Street
mark evans says:

"and, if you care to see for yourself.. come to Bloomington, no garuntee one will show up."

You expect people to travel across the United States to see something that you have no evidence of? You planning on refunding our money if nothing shows up?

"...but how can ya be soooo sure?? without facts?"


can't be sure without facts -- and you certainly haven't provided us with any facts.. All I have to base my beliefs on are facts and evidence, and I don't see any evidence to support your or your friend's assertions.

"screw it i know why i havnt been here for soo long..."

I don't think people disbelieve you because you haven't been here for so long; my guess is that we don't believe you because you haven't given us any reason to.

"WHERES YOUR PROOF!! and john and i both have proof on the sightings its called video... wheres yours??"

What proof do I need? I'm not the one trying to convince anyone, you are! And I hardly consider your videos of proof of anything; I gather no one else here does, either.

"...and hell man.. he was hunting.. you ever been hunting?? if so do ya take a camera with you??"

As a matter of fact, I do take a camera with me, since I go deer hunting (in places like the North Rim of the Canyon) where there's a lot of beautiful scenery. But whether or not I take a camera or you take a camera or your friend takes a camera is irrelevant.

The bottom line is that you have made a bunch of assertions and expect us to buy into them, and there is no evidence for them, and you seem to get upset when all we do is ask for reasonable evidence.

"idiots i swear"

I do not foresee you having a good time and an advantageous sharing of ideas on this forum, given your apparent bad mood and excitability.

Oh well man beleive what ya want, i have my proof in video, you only se partial clips you dont se the whole thing from start to finish, im wasting my I'm wasting my time try to argue with you ppl, some ppl wouldnt beleive even if one landed in their own back yard, this is soo why a lot of ppl won't come out and say what they have seen and or have expeienced in life because there is always some on like you standing around the corner who "thinks" he knows all and is God or something, well I hope that if something ever happens to you ppl will beilve you, because then you will se what us ppl "who are crazy" go through.. good bye, enjoy life in your small world of doubt

this will be my only post...probably.LOL Mark & John are friends of mine & my husband. If you see Mark getting high strung here, it is because he is passionate about what he is saying. We have been skywatching with both Mark & John. They are good genuine peeps. They aren't looking for publicity, they just want to get the word out. In fact, this was hard on John's children, so he toned down his public status. As for the object in John's neck, he fears if he has it removed, they will just insert another one.
I don't expect any of you to believe me, I just happened on this site, & had to have my 2 cents. Mark is a decent calm funny guy with an awsome wife
& awsome best friend by the name of John Tosti. John didn't ask for any of this, furthermore, I don't think they would sit out & skywatch until literally 4 in the morning for absolutely nothing...and as for their camera equipment,
extremely high tech

Originally posted by Hlodde
Hey guys,

Mark and I are talking. I will let ya know what I see! I'm as excited as my 5 yr old on Halloween!

any update? did you see anything?

sounds like a legit story to me......too bad his family went through that hell they went thru......a government run farm and strange lights.......makes me wonder how many "gov farms" there are and if they are doing anything "black" ???


opinions anyone??

I have a copy of the regression cd, it gets pretty intense.

If i had a gun and found intruders on my private property, i wouldn't go running and hiding behind a tree...

When I read the following comment, it made me very angry, but after thinking about it I realized that anyone who is not intimately associated with John would naturally be skeptical of his story. So all I can tell you is that I have known John for 17 years, and I have shared many extraordinary close encounter experiences with him. John Tosti is not a fake or a hoaxer. I believe his and his family's experiences, along with all the individuals who ridiculed and tried to discredit him were largely responsible for his wife's suicide, and John's own suicide four months later.

I also want to clarify the situation to which the poster who calls himself "Psychosis" based his hoax conclusion on. The Snoddy Road sighting event had nothing to do with the "Farm" location or any events that transpired there. John WAS in the company of Robert Amick at Snoddy Road. Robert was NOT with John at the "Farm" location when John's abduction event occurred. When John referred to "she," he was referencing his wife, Susan, when she was viewing the video that John took at the "Farm." It was when she was reviewing the tape that she noticed a red object extend laterally into view from the upper left corner of the screen. This object was later referred to as, "the red rod."

I really don't care what anyone chooses to believe, but I could not let this go unanswered and unclarified, and especially now that John is no longer here to defend himself.

SkySentinel
Lynn Taylor
AAARC.us


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<< reply posted on 23-11-2004 @ 09:40 PM by Psychoses
I feel that John Tosti is a fraud and here is why I have come to this conclusion.


John presents some footage which he says was taken on January 19, 1996 which he describes as "most amazing" that was filmed from a car. What I find amazing is that he fails to mention that he was not alone. John was actually a passenger in a car owned by R. Amick, a member of the Circle Institute Steward's Council who gives a slightly different story,

John erased his posts and got the hell out of here because he realised that the members of ATS would find out the truth as his story would be subjected to close scrutinisation. Why else woud he have run? >>

Originally posted by instar
Why would they bother pandering to the US gov when they can take who, when and whereever they choose anywhere on the globe?

Agreed; they could easily take some uninhabited island and declare sovereignty then trade technology for genetic samples, antibodies from our immune systems or whatever they require from humans

Well I would really like to read about this story but ALL of the links are 404'ed. Can someone please set up a link to the original posted link? Thanks in advance

I would also be interested in analysing the material that has been 404'ed. Meanwhile, a quick look for John Tosti reveals that, indeed, both he and his wife Susan passed way in the last year.

I'm saddened at their passing, especially if suicide was involved.

Never heard of this case until an hour ago but reading about it here.....wow.