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John Tosti - true or hoax??

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posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:22 PM
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Is there another link that can be posted?
The one listed seems to be down




posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Der Kapitan
Yeah I see SUV's all the time.
Are we satisfied that this is legit. This is oddly sudden to me? John Titor- real or fake... and Pow! Hi I'm John Titor.....


If there were a thread on the internet claiming I was a hoax or real, I would def. try to respond to it.

Try listening to this guy on the link provided by evecasino. I'm about 30 minutes into it and it seems like this guy was just 'at the wrong place at the wrong time'. He didnt want to get involved in this situation, it just happened to him. It ruined his life, he has to live with it.

Edit: I'm assuming you're talking about John Tosti

[edit on 11/11/2004 by Simulacra]



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Der Kapitan
Are we satisfied that this is legit. This is oddly sudden to me? John Titor- real or fake... and Pow! Hi I'm John Titor.....



John Tosti not John Titor.

Believe me I want to debunk this but so far I believe what I have been told.
The guy is a nice guy to speak with and very calm. He answered all my questions without the politician Ummm Haaa Ahhh. He was straight out with answers and it didn't seem like he was looking for them on a script.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Notme
Is there another link that can be posted?
The one listed seems to be down


There are several links along the thread.

Try this one.

www.unknowncountry.com...



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:32 PM
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Sorry, got into a hurry...my 'puter crashes the net if I take too long typing. Sorry all. I have not written this off, you speak of wrong place and time which bears a resemblance to the Cash/Landrum case. Please don't take my questions as just the ol' debunkery!



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:43 PM
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Ok, I just sat through the 46minutes interview with John Tosti, its nearly 4am here and my conclusion is...if this is a hoax (which, after listening to the interview, I believe it is not) this is probably the most well-thought hoax in UFO history.

But like I said, it just doesnt have that quality. John Tosti sounds like a guy who I would have a beer with and discuss who's the best running back in the league. He sounds like an authentic guy, plus he says that he has 8-10 hours of taped footage from these events inside his house and outside, 8-10 hours.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:45 PM
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Hmmm... I am listening to the John Tosti interview again at this link www.unknowncountry.com... and the story he told me is quite similar except that I can swear he said he thought that the two humanoids with the lights on their heads appeared to be firemen and that they disappeared.

Now I wish I would have asked Johns permission to record the call but I didn't so I can't tell you this as a fact. But I am sure he did say firemen and not hunters.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:50 PM
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evecasino,

When I initially read the story on the original link (that is now broken) I believed he said he thought they were hunters. They both laid down in the brush in order for these two guys to pass them (even though they were on John Tostis property). As for the fireman...maybe he thought the orange orb was a fire and the two figures were firemen trying to take care of the problem.




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posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:53 PM
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Yes I think that was his explanation to me but I remember him telling me abount an instance when he went around the house to the front to greet them and they disappeared.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by evecasino
Yes I think that was his explanation to me but I remember him telling me abount an instance when he went around the house to the front to greet them and they disappeared.


I'm almost 100% that in his first account (on that broken website) he claimed that when he looked up, he just saw 'white'. Then woke up the next day several feet away with his friend waving at him.

However, if he told you on the phone that he went to the front of his house to greet them...this is a severe flaw in his story. Even on the 46minute interview, he says that he was blinded by a light, then woke up in the daytime with his rifles hidden in a pile of leaves.

[edit on 11/11/2004 by Simulacra]



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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It may have been a different occasion. He also talked about the red rod/beam coming thru his hand and I asked him if he tried to pass the baby monitor over his hand after this and he said he did not but that he would. I suggested it may be another type of transmitter.

By the way he told me he is an HVAC worker so I am trying to research if there is any background info of people that work with freon or the materials in his field that have hallucinations.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 10:11 PM
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evecasino
I'll work on trying to find out some info on that red wand/rod that went through his hand. I find this pretty interesting also, apparently he didnt notice it until he popped the video in his VCR. It could be a camera artifact but it also occured the same time he thought he was out just 15 minutes when in reality he was gone for upwards of five hours. Did you find out what camera he has/had when he recorded that specific event? The best I can do is see if this is a malfunction in the camera, possibly contact the company. It's 4am here, I'll see how much longer I can stay up, I've been on this one for hours.

Edit: I'm going to bed, I cant keep up with this anymore for tonight, my eyes feel like bricks. I'll see what I can do tomorrow though. Once again, good job on the phone interview evecasino

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posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 06:11 AM
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[edit on 13-11-2004 by John Tosti]



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 06:56 AM
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Just in case someone/thing takes the evidences away, you should make a lot of copies of the tapes/pictures/etc. and keep them in different places (e.g. bank). Better yet, try to put them in data format just in case something (magnetic field, etc.) distorts those tapes.



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by John Tosti
It's not a flaw......your talking about two different things.....get your facts first...... straight from the horses mouth.....John
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[edit on 12-11-2004 by John Tosti]

How was this post edited by Simulacra but posted by John Tosti?

Are John Tosti and Simulacra one in the same?



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 07:46 AM
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[edit on 13-11-2004 by John Tosti]



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 07:55 AM
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How was this post edited by Simulacra but posted by John Tosti?

Are John Tosti and Simulacra one in the same?


The entire quote was Simulacra's...
Even with multiple accounts, you'd STILL be able to only edit THAT account's posts...
No worries there...



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 08:09 AM
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If this truly is John Tosti then i think it's a great thing that he has joined ATS and is willing to take the time to answer people's questions. Spreading awareness and trying to find the truth is what it's all about.


One question that i dont think has been asked yet that i had was whether or not John had his neck x-rayed at all in an attempt to find the suspected implant that was causing the interference in the baby monitor. If i was suspicious of something like that in my body i'd want to get checked ASAP.



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Meteor_of_War
One question that i dont think has been asked yet that i had was whether or not John had his neck x-rayed at all in an attempt to find the suspected implant that was causing the interference in the baby monitor. ASAP.


I did ask that question when I was on the phone with him and he told me no that he had not had x-rays of his neck.

I should have asked why but I was anxious to ask many questions so I kept moving along.



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 09:57 AM
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Just wanted to point out that I'm fairly satisfied that the poster is who he claims to be, at least as far as where he's posting from...


This is in no way an endorsement for his story (I have not yet devoted the proper time to have a say one way or the other), but I did want to make an effort to validate/refute the identity.

Thanks.



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