Originally posted by the owlbear
Also...and this is the big one...ALCOHOLISM IS NOT A DISEASE. NO ONE SNEEZES AND YOU CATCH ALCOHOLISM FROM THEM. IT IS NOT AN STD OR OTHERWISE
YOU HAVE A CHOICE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...DO I PICK UP THAT BOTTLE OR TWELVE OR DO I BE RESPONSIBLE AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT.
Sorry...didnt mean to sound like an ass...but that is what it comes down to. YOU. Not some HIGHER POWER or holding hands with crackhead johnny and
heroin tony every week.
And you know what, I believe in you...
I think you may be a little--just a little--off with respect to your definition of what a disease is. If you said that alcoholism is not a
communicable disease, I would certainly have to agree. It would be silly to claim otherwise. But it is, in my opinion, just ridiculous to claim that
alcoholism, or addiction in general, isn't a disease.
From Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org...
• "A disease is an abnormal condition that affects the body of an organism... There are four main types of disease: pathogenic disease, deficiency
disease, hereditary disease, and physiological disease. Diseases can also be classified as communicable and non-communicable disease."
So yes, you're right about it not being related to sexually transmitted diseases, colds, influenza, or any other communicable disease. There is even
an entire government agency that concerns itself largely with infectious and communicable disease, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Even so, the
following diseases and conditions that you would discount as products of choice are some of those listed as topics on the CDC's diseases and
conditions page www.cdc.gov...
I picked those specifically because there can be genetic components to all of those apparently non-diseases. After all, it's not a disease if you
can't "catch" it right? Similarly, there has been an overwhelming amount of evidence to support the contention that there is a genetic component to
alcoholism and other addictive diseases:
• "The genetic basis of addictive disorders": www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
• "Genes matter in addiction": www.apa.org...
• I've used a lot of Eric Nestler's work for my academic research. His research is solid and very interesting. One example of Nestler's contribution
to the field of addiction research is "The Genetic Basis of Addiction": www.apa.org/monitor/2008/06/genes-addict.aspx There is a PDF of this article
available from another website (can't link to PDFs from ATS).
• "Vulnerability to Nicotine Addiction Appears to Have a Genetic Basis, Study Suggests":
• "The molecular genetic basis of addiction to drugs of abuse: Dynamic transcriptional profiling of coc aine-induced gene expression in the
Nucleus Accumbens": researchfund.axa.com...
These are articles on the first page of a Google search for "genetic basis for addiction". Some of the more interesting articles can be found in
journals having to do with psychology and psychiatry.
My point is that addiction is probably--it may just be a disease. It's reasonable to say that addiction is a disease that likely has a genetic
component. Given the right environmental conditions, a genetic predisposition to addiction is likely to lead to the development of addiction. And to
claim addiction is a "choice" raises the philosophical discussion of whether humans truly have free-will. But that's not what this thread is about.
The OP is clearly seeking support and not to be berated. Not cool.
I'm not trying to say your intentions are malicious in intent, but if you're going to make claims, back them up with something other than writing in
all-caps. It seems like you're yelling, which might stress people out. Now that I think about it, stress is what the OP said his likely trigger
The links I've provided deal with addiction in general. If I need to further substantiate what I've said with articles dealing solely with alcohol
addiction, I would be more than happy to furnish such evidence.
edit on 29-5-2013 by darkmistandtrees because: Clarification and