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Greeks who are to poor to pay Taxes will be sent to Labor Camps

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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:07 PM
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Communism is now took grip in Europe,

Greeks who are to poor to pay and owe taxes will be sent to labor camps where they will have to work to pay off the debt.
www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com...


Britain we now have secret courts private companies issuing summons which is against the law, Our courts and justice system is to be privatised, They have sold our water, Gas and National Grid to private companies.

Our old are being killed on Liverpool Pathways, our disabled are being left in poverty and more and more people are made homeless.

To day the former head of MI5 said that the only way to protect Britain from for terrorists attacks was to make Britain a Police State ( when reading this story remember we already have 4 million cameras watching us in Britain)

If people don'e wake up soon and very soon everything willhappen overnight and you will wake up one morning and say " Wow I never saw that coming", The USA the UK Europe it doe's not matter where the agenda is the same. The tactics are the same and the victims are the same, Non compliance is the only answer.
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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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www.dailymail.co.uk...

Sorry forgot the link for former MI5 leader calling for Police State ( here it is)



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:33 PM
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Soooo

When does this start in the U.S. ?

Maybe sooner than we think..

The I.R.S.S. is capable of anything.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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Greeks who are to poor to pat Taxes will be sent to Labor Camps


There's a very good (and long thread here and if memory serves, it deals with the subject of... what happens to Greece is what awaits the rest of the EU and eventually, the west (including the US).

Not to suggest squelching this OP by any means but... the story that remains is one that may retain.

Eyes open y'all. The world is a freakin mess.

S&F!
edit on 28-5-2013 by redoubt because: checking code

edit on 28-5-2013 by redoubt because: code a mess



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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I urge everyone to watch this from 1983
www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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I urge everyone to watch this from 1983
www.youtube.com...


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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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My god, Europe is achieving what Hitler never could. We are living his dream.

And yes, for now its only affecting the southern country's of the EU. But as my favorite economist said in an article. What we are seeing now is the northern country's of the EU scavenging the southern country of their resources to fill the debt that is the EU.

But when its all gone, it will be coming from the northern parts of the EU. And it will be soon, i'm thinking 2 Years tops.


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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:44 PM
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This is fear-mongerning, nothing more.

These are not Labor Camps/Concentration camps, otherwise the media in EU would be full of it.

There is so much crime that prisons are full in Greece. As financial criminals are not as violent as others, they are just taken to military camps, until rural prisons are built. All human rights are respected. Nothing worth fear-mongering.

Just like jail, simply in another place. No labour work. Far more freedom than in jail + food.


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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:51 PM
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Are you that naive? Tell me, those people are send there because they have no money yes?
The people have no money because the government of Greece has no money yes?

So who will be paying for the food you think? Don't you think it will be extremely expensive for the government to enact this? if you know the jobless rate in Greece its like 45% in 2011 the population of Greece was 11.3 million.

So lets make camps for about 5 million people...

So where does this end? The people will not only have to work until they pay of their debt but also while they work they'l need to pay of their food.

So in other words... they might be there for a very long time.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:54 PM
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It was a rough translation to read. What I get is that the Greeks who owe have a certain amount of time to pay up. Then it off to jail, but since they don't want them mixing with a general prison population, they will be housed at a camp where they can work off the debt and cut their time served.

Just ease them in their and get the people used to it.

The last part about how the police have stopped protests sounds ominous.


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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by Cabin
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This is fear-mongerning, nothing more.

These are not Labor Camps/Concentration camps, otherwise the media in EU would be full of it.

There is so much crime that prisons are full in Greece. As financial criminals are not as violent as others, they are just taken to military camps, until rural prisons are built. All human rights are respected. Nothing worth fear-mongering.

Just like jail, simply in another place. No labour work. Far more freedom than in jail + food.


Oh that would be the same media that blocked out the sound today when it covered Max Clifford going into court to face charges of sexual attacks on teenagers, The sound that was blocked was people shouting the names of MPs who are known pedophiles and high profile celebs, (THE SOUND WAS BLOCKED BY ALL MEDIA OUTLETS).
This is not scaremongering this is reported all over the web, i just gave one link, it was annonced today by the Greek authorities.
You sound like the type of person that will be traveling in the back of an army truck at gunpoint on the way to a fema camp who would try and convince the rest of the passengers that you were all been treated to a Mystery Tour by the Government and thats why you dont know the destination.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 03:58 PM
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How the hell we go from Greek camps to LCP and other crap is amazing

The basic utilities were sold off in the 1980 and are still under some government regulation to stop them taking the proverbial and as for secretive courts they still have to follow the law its just that their reason for existence is that they are matters which shouldn't be aired in general public such as contraception for a woman who's not of full mental ability but want sex etc.

and as for the Liverpool care system i did give permission for my father to die under it as it was better for him to go cleanly than spend the next few months in agony so not everyone who dies under it is murdered in cold blood as you may think

and as for some ex spook person to say keep an eye out...we had to do that for years due to the Irish problem so its hardly a new thing



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
It was a rough translation to read. What I get is that the Greeks who owe have a certain amount of time to pay up. Then it off to jail, but since they don't want them mixing with a general prison population, they will be housed at a camp where they can work off the debt and cut their time served.

Just ease them in their and get the people used to it.

The last part about how the police have stopped protests sounds ominous.


There are many links that is just the one I chose, if you google it you will get many links from different sources



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
Soooo

When does this start in the U.S. ?

Maybe sooner than we think..

The I.R.S.S. is capable of anything.



we already have the infrastructure in place
perhaps more mindless drones [the 2-legged kind]
are required

aren't people already being sent to debtors prison?

and the "sanity" will continue until enough "Madness" is applied



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:17 PM
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Greek people will not put up with such a fascist government because they have alternatives .



Everything is working out how it all suppose to work out.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Maxatoria
How the hell we go from Greek camps to LCP and other crap is amazing

The basic utilities were sold off in the 1980 and are still under some government regulation to stop them taking the proverbial and as for secretive courts they still have to follow the law its just that their reason for existence is that they are matters which shouldn't be aired in general public such as contraception for a woman who's not of full mental ability but want sex etc.

and as for the Liverpool care system i did give permission for my father to die under it as it was better for him to go cleanly than spend the next few months in agony so not everyone who dies under it is murdered in cold blood as you may think

and as for some ex spook person to say keep an eye out...we had to do that for years due to the Irish problem so its hardly a new thing


I put in a link from 1983 youtube video.
Take a look at pathways, its estimated hundreds of thousands may have died on this. Our disabled are been classed as scum etc and made to go through degrading tests and questions, check how many died after their Atos assessment.

Our utilities are gone and we are held to randsom each year, 2% wage rises and 20% fuel rises.

Our police and courts are been privatised, our jails are privatised, Serco who run prisons and youth offending facilities, a young guy found hanged in a serco young offenders unit died had broken arms broken leg and broken hand the verdict was suicide SERCO runs the post mortom unit which was privatised also.

They can bill you convict you and make you work to pay the debt and if you dont like it they can kill you and give a verdict of suicide.


Serco won a contract to run very catolouge call centres in Nov 2012 , they put a bid in to run it for a number of years £500m, In Jan 2013 minsters after lobbying by serco said that work in prisons is a must and prisoners would be expected to work a 40 hour week for a couple of pound so they could buy things like toothpaste etc.

And now Greece are going the same way and you think privatisation our jails court and police whilst upping costs for taxes and utilities are not linked, ( then I dont know what to say)



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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The situation is not that bad there, as the mainstream media makes it look like. The unemployment is around 27% though...

Most post-soviet countries are doing far worse than Greece, yet Greece gets the attention, as they. I have several friends from Athens. For example here, the taxes are pretty much the same, VAT is more here, living costs are the same (if not higher here), yet the average net salary is 2/3 of what average Greek earns after taxes and it is livable to be honest. Pensions are much higher in Greece around 2-3 times. The thing is people can pay the taxes as it is livable even after that. Many people are used to higher salaries there and now when salaries dropped, suddenly there is panic.

The thing is Greeks were used to have higher salaries. Imagine if you earned 100k a year and now suddenly dropped to 50k. You would have to change your lifestyle. Many do not want to do it. For decades Greece have avoided paying taxes to the government, it is like a national sport. Up to 30 billion a year of uncollected taxes. The net salaries would still be higher compared to many post-soviet European countries, yet people prefer to not pay these and earn more. That is one the reason behind the bankrupt of the country. Some moral should exist on the matter. The tax evasion has also been a huge problem in Spain and Italy, nearly all southern European countries.

The other reason lies in the corruptedness. The public sector was so overpaid and tbh still is. The country was very corrupterd I guess that one of the reasons behind people not wanting to pay the taxes.

I understand that many are suffering, but many are just deepening the crisis by not paying the taxes in order to continue the life they used to have, when the economy was doing well. It is possible to live with the net salaries in these areas, yet many people prefer not paying the taxes in order to afford more.
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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:28 PM
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www.dailymail.co.uk...

Thjere is the link to above. taking call centres from the outside where people are getting min wage and making prisoners do it for a fraction of the cost, make the unemployed workers poorer then put them inside doing the same job for food and board.

Serco got the contract.
serco runs the courts
serco runs the juddes
serco runs prisons

Serco can guarantee a stream of slaves.

If you owe debt on credit cards etc do the sensible thing and pay them. dont waste any money pay your debts so they cant come for you



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Cabin
reply to post by Senduko
 


The situation is not that bad there, as the mainstream media makes it look like. The unemployment is around 27% though...

Most post-soviet countries are doing far worse than Greece, yet Greece gets the attention, as they. I have several friends from Athens. For example here, the taxes are pretty much the same, VAT is more here, living costs are the same (if not higher here), yet the average net salary is 2/3 of what average Greek earns after taxes and it is livable to be honest. Pensions are much higher in Greece around 2-3 times. The thing is people can pay the taxes as it is livable even after that. Many people are used to higher salaries there and now when salaries dropped, suddenly there is panic.

The thing is Greeks were used to have higher salaries. Imagine if you earned 100k a year and now suddenly dropped to 50k. You would have to change your lifestyle. Many do not want to do it. For decades Greece have avoided paying taxes to the government, it is like a national sport. Up to 30 billion a year of uncollected taxes. The net salaries would still be higher compared to many post-soviet European countries, yet people prefer to not pay these and earn more. That is one the reason behind the bankrupt of the country. Some moral should exist on the matter. The tax evasion has also been a huge problem in Spain and Italy, nearly all southern European countries.

The other reason lies in the corruptedness. The public sector was so overpaid and tbh still is. The country was very corrupterd I guess that one of the reasons behind people not wanting to pay the taxes.

I understand that many are suffering, but many are just deepening the crisis by not paying the taxes in order to continue the life they used to have, when the economy was doing well. It is possible to live with the net salaries in these areas, yet many people prefer not paying the taxes in order to afford more.
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ok if unemployment is 27% that make 27% that cant pay the high taxes, so they go to camps, they were previously unemployed now they will work, so they take 27% of work and make another 27% unemployed and then they get jailed forr not payiong taxes so within five years the whole workforce would have been through the labor camps


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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Greek here.

There is nothing true in the OP's post. No labor camps for Greek people is the truth.

A joke made by one of our left-wing politicians about Goulags has been erroneously translated into labor camps for Greek people.



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