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Greeks who are to poor to pat Taxes will be sent to Labor Camps
Originally posted by Cabin
reply to post by pavmas
This is fear-mongerning, nothing more.
These are not Labor Camps/Concentration camps, otherwise the media in EU would be full of it.
There is so much crime that prisons are full in Greece. As financial criminals are not as violent as others, they are just taken to military camps, until rural prisons are built. All human rights are respected. Nothing worth fear-mongering.
Just like jail, simply in another place. No labour work. Far more freedom than in jail + food.
Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
It was a rough translation to read. What I get is that the Greeks who owe have a certain amount of time to pay up. Then it off to jail, but since they don't want them mixing with a general prison population, they will be housed at a camp where they can work off the debt and cut their time served.
Just ease them in their and get the people used to it.
The last part about how the police have stopped protests sounds ominous.
Originally posted by xuenchen
When does this start in the U.S. ?
Maybe sooner than we think..
The I.R.S.S. is capable of anything.
Originally posted by Maxatoria
How the hell we go from Greek camps to LCP and other crap is amazing
The basic utilities were sold off in the 1980 and are still under some government regulation to stop them taking the proverbial and as for secretive courts they still have to follow the law its just that their reason for existence is that they are matters which shouldn't be aired in general public such as contraception for a woman who's not of full mental ability but want sex etc.
and as for the Liverpool care system i did give permission for my father to die under it as it was better for him to go cleanly than spend the next few months in agony so not everyone who dies under it is murdered in cold blood as you may think
and as for some ex spook person to say keep an eye out...we had to do that for years due to the Irish problem so its hardly a new thing
Originally posted by Cabin
reply to post by Senduko
The situation is not that bad there, as the mainstream media makes it look like. The unemployment is around 27% though...
Most post-soviet countries are doing far worse than Greece, yet Greece gets the attention, as they. I have several friends from Athens. For example here, the taxes are pretty much the same, VAT is more here, living costs are the same (if not higher here), yet the average net salary is 2/3 of what average Greek earns after taxes and it is livable to be honest. Pensions are much higher in Greece around 2-3 times. The thing is people can pay the taxes as it is livable even after that. Many people are used to higher salaries there and now when salaries dropped, suddenly there is panic.
The thing is Greeks were used to have higher salaries. Imagine if you earned 100k a year and now suddenly dropped to 50k. You would have to change your lifestyle. Many do not want to do it. For decades Greece have avoided paying taxes to the government, it is like a national sport. Up to 30 billion a year of uncollected taxes. The net salaries would still be higher compared to many post-soviet European countries, yet people prefer to not pay these and earn more. That is one the reason behind the bankrupt of the country. Some moral should exist on the matter. The tax evasion has also been a huge problem in Spain and Italy, nearly all southern European countries.
The other reason lies in the corruptedness. The public sector was so overpaid and tbh still is. The country was very corrupterd I guess that one of the reasons behind people not wanting to pay the taxes.
I understand that many are suffering, but many are just deepening the crisis by not paying the taxes in order to continue the life they used to have, when the economy was doing well. It is possible to live with the net salaries in these areas, yet many people prefer not paying the taxes in order to afford more.edit on 28-5-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)