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Originally posted by Zngland
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
I sense a certain attitude in many posts here at ATS. It's an attitude that shows no sympathy for those viewed as lesser than yourselves.
Many feel that the homeless, welfare, drug addicts, and other bottom of the barrel people are getting what they deserve and shouldn't be a drain on the rest of society.
What you are preaching and asking for is a dog eat dog world. A devolution from our civilized society. You wish to return to when everyone cared for just their immediate family and damn everyone else.
Why do so many wish to return to such a time?
I ask are all of you (who will probably be too shame to post in this thread) REALLY built for such a society? I don't think so, you actually want a society that's half civilized and half savage. Especially when it comes to yourselves.
How many of you are young, strong and trained to survive in such a savage society? I'd wager that there is a percentage who spew they want such a society but they would be among the first to expire should we return to such savagery!
Many of you speaking of all this heartlessness are out of shape and may even have disabilities. You would be among the FIRST to expire. You should want this society to be as civilized as possible. You are all hypocrites!
Nobody should be forced to help anybody , a healthy society is founded on meritocracy,
our system now through many reasons , one of which is the obligatory corruption inherent
in our system of ever increasing Govt with it's machiavelli participants whose election or
reelection demands and rewards dishonesty, both in power and money.
We actually live at best under a Communist lite ideology, and moving closer to Communism
and Fascism both similar management systems.
Since dynamism flourishes and diminishes in relation to economic freedom and freedom in general
i would prefer to live in a free as possible society giving me as many opportunities to progress personally
and Society holistically.
Afraid has nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by Philippines
Where did you read entitlements or inner city in the OP? Or did I miss that later in the thread? =D
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
I know exactly what our inner cities look like and what will happen if (as many people seem to wish) welfare and foodstamps were discontinued. It's not something I want! I'm addressing the people who DO want this and wish to devolve to savagery.
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
You aren't suggesting kicking everyone off foodstamps and other less than civilized suggestions?
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
the intent of this thread is to force the people who have no sympathy toward societies downtrodden to see their hypocracy.
Originally posted by Zngland
Tragic nonsense.( no offense)
A healthy individual is one with those
values and since most do the society will reflect this,
you want to force people to follow your view (good or bad morally ideologically etc),
which is wrong. A human being is Sovereign otherwise he/she is a defacto slave.
No one wants to go back on soup lines,but if you knew anything about the welfare system ,you would understand why most people find welfare recipients so distasteful.
Not all,but more than 60%.
Its pretty much why the country is broke ,and the govt perpetuates it .
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
the intent of this thread is to force the people who have no sympathy toward societies downtrodden to see their hypocracy.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Philippines
Where did you read entitlements or inner city in the OP? Or did I miss that later in the thread? =D
Here ya' go .....
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
I know exactly what our inner cities look like and what will happen if (as many people seem to wish) welfare and foodstamps were discontinued. It's not something I want! I'm addressing the people who DO want this and wish to devolve to savagery.
And ..
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
You aren't suggesting kicking everyone off foodstamps and other less than civilized suggestions?
And ...
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
the intent of this thread is to force the people who have no sympathy toward societies downtrodden to see their hypocracy.
There is more, but I think you get the idea. It's about paying shake down money in entitlements so that the inner city won't run crazy and destroy everything, setting civilized society backwards a long ways ...
edit on 5/28/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Philippines
reply to post by burdman30ott6
If you're tired of all the BS, then walk away from it.. or fly... or whatever. Why volunteer to the rat race, if you have a choice?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
I know exactly what our inner cities look like and what will happen if (as many people seem to wish) welfare and foodstamps were discontinued. It's not something I want! I'm addressing the people who DO want this and wish to devolve to savagery.
So you are saying that the working class must pay off the inner city non-workers so that the 'inner cities' won't go out and loot and kill because they don't get their handouts?
What is sad is that a lot of those 'inner city' people that you are talking about have made some very bad life decisions ... like getting hooked on drugs and having bunches of children whom they can't (or won't) take care of ... children who don't even know who their fathers are ... decisions like robbing people to get money to spend on $200 sneakers because it's 'cool' ...
... and you wonder why people who work for a living don't want to support that? Really? You are endorsing paying shake down money for those in the 'inner city' who are partly responsible for their own situations.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Well, you are right. Humanity is so weakened because of technology that we have grown lazy and fat, incapable of even enduring the hottest summer without airconditioning..
Hey ya'll .... the OP isn't talking about what you think he is.
He's not talking about TEOTWAWKI ... that kind of thing.
He's talking about what would happen if ENTITLEMENTS for the inner city STOPPED.
The title of this thread is very misleading.
and people didn't read what he posted.
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Well, you are right. Humanity is so weakened because of technology that we have grown lazy and fat, incapable of even enduring the hottest summer without airconditioning..
Hey ya'll .... the OP isn't talking about what you think he is.
He's not talking about TEOTWAWKI ... that kind of thing.
He's talking about what would happen if ENTITLEMENTS for the inner city STOPPED.
The title of this thread is very misleading.
and people didn't read what he posted.
If entitlements for the inner city stopped, the people would leave and go into the country and find jobs, earn a living, and contribute to society. Entrepreneurs would then come in, rebuild the inner city, buy and sell and everyone would prosper. The reason they call them entitlements is because people feel they are "entitled" to have other peoples stuff, money, food, etc.
I am not saying don't feed such people, we need to do that, but don't give them free phones, Tv sets, free housing, etc. Give them something to eat and something to wear and perhaps maybe, just maybe they'll want to make more out of themselves than to live off other people's hard work and effort.
Originally posted by supremecommander
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Many feel that the homeless, welfare, drug addicts, and other bottom of the barrel people are getting what they deserve and shouldn't be a drain on the rest of society.
Give an example of what type of posts would lead you to make an extreme statement like that.
You don't have to quote exact posts ... just give us a flavor of those that you think are calling
for 'dog eat dog society'; Thank you.
I have lurked on this site for awhile now, and I can tell you that there are several posts made on a daily basis by people who are craving for a dog eat dog society, where they look down upon the less fortunate and make assumptions about people because they are on welfare or have to resort to using SNAP.
They want these people to starve. They want unfortunate families who cannot find decent employment to provide for each other to starve. No UI, no welfare, no healthcare, no food, anything. Just let them starve, and in their warped minds, they believe that these "lazy" people will just die off. What a tragic assumption.
I laugh when I read posts from the haughty individuals that yearn for the society where people are starving in the streets, because they believe that their belongings, loved ones, and personal safety will be secure in such a world.
They should pray to their god that the day doesn't come. No matter how many guns you own, you can and will be overwhelmed when the wilding begins. I myself lead a comfortable existence, but I am not foolish enough to think that my right to bear arms can protect me when a mob of starving people whose psyche has been pushed to the brink in a dog eat dog society come knocking at my door.
Keep begging for your dog eat dog society in this country. Blood will bathe the streets, and men will swing from lamp posts.edit on 28-5-2013 by supremecommander because: (no reason given)