The problem with the UK, in my opinion.

Older generations all over the world have lived long enough to see vast social changes and imported cultural ideas be imposed on their native cultures, where as younger people don't see it, because it's all they know, McDonalds, reality TV, with facebook being the latest subversion of national identity. The social engineering that has gone on over the last 30 years is unprecedented in history, as far as brainwashing and propaganda go. And all with the goal of having a uniformed global society, because that's what one culture dominating means.

The UK is just another country. In fact Id say the UK has even less of a national identity than other places in Europe. Our language is the universal language, something to be proud of, but the fact everyone speaks it, some countries speak it far better than we do...well it hardly matters we created it due to this fact, there is nothing unique when everyone speaks your language. That's why its harder to convert the rest of mainland Europe to the American model, because of the language barrier and language barriers are harder to break down than iron curtains..language barriers are also cultural barriers and that's why the one Europe idea was always going to fail..They would need to outlaw all languages to have a unified Europe and that would ruin the diversity.

We have no real sense of identity, because our national identity was that of "GREAT BRITON", and that ship has sailed years ago, we are not great, because the word great means large and powerful and Empire. Thats what aggravates me about people who still hold on to the union flag. Stuck in the past..So you get the likes of the BNP or the EDL or in northern Ireland the Unionists etc...all stuck in the past worshiping an empire that no longer exists...its pathetic. This is unfortunately your best representation of Briton or being British, the far right. Because anything connected with the union flag usually belongs to the far right and extreme views. Thats because the flag represents an extreme, the extreme of empire.

The people who love that flag would wish we still had the empire, and some would love to have another unrealistic crack at making another empire. The rest of the country couldn't care less about the flag or the farce of a union it represents, because most British people are second and third generation British and have no investment in being patriotic due to the fact that they do not recognize an empire that no longer exists, they do not recognize an unconstitutional royal family either...also sons and daughters of immigrants have had lots of experience in being told they are not British in the first place...not a wise thing to do to your own population, because its the population that "populate" things like the military, health service, police and every other public and private sector job etc...This is why the quality of work and the standards at every level of society in the UK have slipped way below the levels they once were at..when people once had pride in their work and respect for their neighbors etc.

Because the pride came from a sense of belonging to a community..how can you have a sense of belonging when your made to feel not British enough or too British to stomach living with all the immigrants. So the rip off culture we have in the UK, has arisen due to this sense of having no community, just a free for all, every man for himself and ill do what I gotta do to get mine mentality. That's the real UK. And its like that from the top down, from the bankers and business men who rob everyone blind to the other end of the scale with benefit cheats or people who evade paying their taxes or cheating on their insurance claims...its all part of the same ideal, Im separate and i know they are all on the fiddle, so ill do the same thing. What kind of a country is that? Not a real country at all, just a place to exist until you can get enough money to clear off somewhere you can feel an actual sense of fitting in.

So that's modern Briton, the few who are patriotic are ignorant and misguided and quite often violently patriotic. And everyone else cant stomach to associate with the flag because of its connotations.

This has also not only led to social breakdown on mass..but it shows up what Briton really is and what it always really has been. Briton is not a country as such, its more of a corporation, it's quite obvious from events like WW1 a war started between a disagreement between the king of England and his German cousin..and the young conscripts that were forced to join the army and then forced at gunpoint to go over the top of the trenches to certain slaughter..even then it was obvious that the people are expendable, WW1 really showed that fact up for sure. But later we saw how traditional industry was outsourced to the far east, leaving millions in unemployment, in order to make the rich richer etc..We see social housing, tower blocks and crime ridden estates. We see sub standard education, and the same old class system.

But most of all we see how it's all about the money, The fact that it's been so publicized that the city of London, is the financial capital of the world, and we better not kick out the bankers or else everything will collapse..supposedly. That's what its all about now and always has been, money, and the richest of the rich who pull all the strings at everyone elses expense. Thats what Briton is to me. if your not a member of the elite, you a fool if you think you belong to a country, your just a worker ant.

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That's the point of the EU's immigration laws.. dilute the cultures and the population till national identities blend and become confused. Send some Poles over there, invite some Bulgarians over here, welcome a crap ton of Muslims to out breed em all. Then convince everyone that Nationalism is actually Racism, and socially ostracize anyone who holds Nationalist views. The UK doesn't have a problem in this sense.. by the Globalists view, the only reaalll problem with Britain, is that they have not integrated fully and completely with the EU. They are still outsiders. Y'all just need more immigrants, and the public opinion will shift to full integration.