Simple question re: homosexuality

reply to post by MadMax7

Does it really matter what goes on in the privacy of ones bedroom? If two people love each other. It's up them what they do. I know straight couples, who probably don't fit in with what your convention of sensible sex is.

Originally posted by MadMax7
It is not scary. It's just stupid.

Sticking a penis up a rectum and that being the basis of what defines your relationship

This is the truly stupid bit.
You think this is what "defines" a relationship?
I'm a gay man, and I don't participate in this activity at all. You need to have a little conversation with yourself and really think about how you come to your conclusions about things

Originally posted by MadMax7
It is not scary. It's just stupid.

Sticking a penis up a rectum and that being the basis of what defines your relationship, is against all natural and evolutionary principles.

To then demand equal rights in marriage is the stupidity bit.

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edit on 28-5-2013 by MadMax7 because: ats have a problem with the word penis????

This has to be one of the most insanely stupid comments I've ever read on ATS, which is saying a lot!!

Sticking a penis up a rectum and that being the basis of what defines your relationship

Is that really the defining principle behind homosexual relationships in your opinion??? Does anyone actually need to be married or even be in a relationship for that to even take place??? By your rationale then are heterosexual relationships/marriages defined by the action of "Sticking a penis in a vagina?"

To then demand equal rights in marriage is the stupidity bit.

WOW!! Please, do not ever breed!!! But if you do, I hope for the sake of your children that you NEVER teach them anything. Do them a favor and abandon them before they might actually continue your legacy of this kind of thinking!!

Because in the Bible it says something about being stoned if you lay with another man... Honestly I think it's a load of rubbish and I don't see why anyone should be offended by it, but there's always small minded people who can't deal with people being "different", even though I don't see it as being different at all

However, I reckon that the Bible is to blame for this one

Ok here goes
and please dont take offence

Too see two men kissing makes me feel uncomfortable (but not so as I want to beat them up)
My personal gut feeling is being gay is wrong, but the only thing in my opinion that a gay couple have done wrong is fall in love the wrong person (in my opinion)

I hope this is making sense

My problem...... infact its not my problem as realisticly gay marrage shouldnt affect my life so I will refer to it as the problem

In the Uk it is pushed out in the media that it is the Christian Church that has the Issue with gay marrage when I dont think it is, in a world of equality surley if the Church is made by law to marry same sex couples then shouldnt all the other faiths
I know my local church dosent have a big issuses with gays as two of the ladies who help out quite often are gay, there is also a bloke my age who is apparently gay
without being rude you cant tell, what I mean is he dosnt mince around like some half female you see on the tv
he is a nice normal bloke who might be gay so what, he isnt affecting my life in any bad way same with the two ladies so what they have a same sex partner they dont force it down my throat or try to convert me
I think the big problem is equality and freedom

If they left it up to individual churches then that might be a better solution or if it is going to bad legal in all churches then it should be made legal in moques and sinogogues and other such buildings
I hope I havent caused any offence

What is so scary about gay marriage?

Corruption is scarey , fire is scarey.

Mass corruption and manipulation is scary.

Like you see the storms and floods in USA , and they are scary.

Gay marriage is a storm and when you see the results , that will be scarey.

Only those who scare not , go after very destructive activities , people like Hitler.

some say Hitler was skeptic.They say hitler believed "we want to see if we can get the world or not".

But the result was very horrible for all sides. Even those who were far from the battle field.

Originally posted by mideast

What is so scary about gay marriage?

Corruption is scarey , fire is scarey.

Mass corruption and manipulation is scary.

Like you see the storms and floods in USA , and they are scary.

Gay marriage is a storm and when you see the results , that will be scarey.

Only those who scare not , go after very destructive activities , people like Hitler.

some say Hitler was skeptic.They say hitler believed "we want to see if we can get the world or not".

But the result was very horrible for all sides. Even those who were far from the battle field.

I am not following your logic pattern at all here.

It sounds more like a veiled threat than an argument to me

reply to post by markosity1973


No , it is a clear threat.

But some people just like riding merry go round and close their eyes.

Do transexuals want the same rights as gays in getting married??

Originally posted by MegaSpace
Do transexuals want the same rights as gays in getting married??

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You would need to ask a transexual person, but I think the answer to that is that transexual people are after a different set of rights. Transexual people are usually lumped in with the gay community but they are a minority within a minority.

From the few genuine (as in actually had the full operation) transexual people I have met the general impression I get is that they want to have their sex on their records changed legally i.e from male to female (usually) or from female to male.

With all the transexuals that I have met, if this were allowed it would mean that they would then easily be able to marry under traditional laws as they stand. This is because the ones I know have then formed a male / transexual female couple with their partners.

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Originally posted by mideast
Corruption is scarey , fire is scarey.
Mass corruption and manipulation is scary.
Like you see the storms and floods in USA , and they are scary.
Gay marriage is a storm and when you see the results , that will be scarey.
Only those who scare not , go after very destructive activities , people like Hitler.

Corruption, fire, manipulation and floods HURT people... Gay marriage does not.
Equating people who support gay marriage to Hitler is not scary, it's ignorant.

Originally posted by markosity1973

Originally posted by MegaSpace
Do transexuals want the same rights as gays in getting married??

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You would need to ask a transexual person, but I think the answer to that is that transexual people are after a different set of rights. Transexual people are usually lumped in with the gay community but they are a minority within a minority.

From the few genuine (as in actually had the full operation) transexual people I have met the general impression I get is that they want to have their sex on their records changed legally i.e from male to female (usually) or from female to male.

With all the transexuals that I have met, if this were allowed it would mean that they would then easily be able to marry under traditional laws as they stand. This is because the ones I know have then formed a male / transexual female couple with their partners.

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Thanks kindly & you pretty much answered my next question/s bolded

Originally posted by dam00
If they left it up to individual churches then that might be a better solution or if it is going to bad legal in all churches then it should be made legal in moques and sinogogues and other such buildings
I hope I havent caused any offence

I could spend a few hours debating and trying to find out what it is that you find so "wrong", but at least you are presenting you opinion in an honest way, and even you seem to admit that you don't understand exactly WHY you find it uncomfortable.

But I wanted to quote the part above and point out that same-sex marriage proposals do not REQUIRE any faith group to perform same-sex marriages. No one is going to be forced into performing ceremonies.

The law in the UK (and in every other instance I have seen of the proposals around the world) is that those who WISH to perform same-sex marriage will be allowed to. If a church doesn't want to, they don't have to.

This is the way it should be. The fact of the matter is that the population is moving on, we are evolving to be less religious, and more equal. People are learning to accept that what consenting adults do is their business and nothing to do with any other group of people.

Same-sex marriage will pass eventually in the USA, because this is how the youth are moving. Like it or not, the religious beliefs of a decade ago are dying very quickly, one more generation is all it would take for this to pass with even less argument than it has now. At the same time, church attendance is collapsing, and in the UK Christianity is only being propped up by Christian followers migrating here from African nations and Eastern Europe.

Christians need to face up to the fact that their religion is dying, and that is in no small part because of the absolute refusal to modernize and adapt to a changing society. I firmly believe that within two or three generations it will decline to the point of being an extreme minority group.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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Originally posted by mideast
Corruption is scarey , fire is scarey.
Mass corruption and manipulation is scary.
Like you see the storms and floods in USA , and they are scary.
Gay marriage is a storm and when you see the results , that will be scarey.
Only those who scare not , go after very destructive activities , people like Hitler.

Corruption, fire, manipulation and floods HURT people... Gay marriage does not.
Equating people who support gay marriage to Hitler is not scary, it's ignorant.

Those who don't see the results are ignorant.

+ Hitler is not a scary person to every one. To some people he is a hero.

So , no one is offended by my comparison.

+ ETA , my problem is not that people want to be gay in other countries.

The problem is that manipulated masses are the ones who invade other countries and destroy them behind empty words.

So , we don't have to argue on this matter anymore.

Corruption HURT people... Gay marriage does not.

Corruption doesn't hurt some people , and some people define corruption as they like , not as it is.

Originally posted by mideast

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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Originally posted by mideast
Corruption is scarey , fire is scarey.
Mass corruption and manipulation is scary.
Like you see the storms and floods in USA , and they are scary.
Gay marriage is a storm and when you see the results , that will be scarey.
Only those who scare not , go after very destructive activities , people like Hitler.

Corruption, fire, manipulation and floods HURT people... Gay marriage does not.
Equating people who support gay marriage to Hitler is not scary, it's ignorant.

Those who don't see the results are ignorant.

+ Hitler is not a scary person to every one. To some people he is a hero.

So , no one is offended by my comparison.

Well, I am neither afraid, and nor am I like Hitler. Hitler was only a hero to cowards and the corrupt.

I may walk the valley of death by standing up for my rights, but I fear not and I never will.

Originally posted by OpenEars123
I would say that a lot of people who are anti gay marriage or anti gay, are in fact themselves gay or have some secret gay tendencies. Whether they know it or not or if they accept it or deny it, is a whole different subject.

Good question, and good luck when the god squad arrive.

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This argument has been done to death. You'd think liberals would come up with a new tactic by now. This one doesn't work.

Originally posted by markosity1973

Originally posted by mideast

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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Originally posted by mideast
Corruption is scarey , fire is scarey.
Mass corruption and manipulation is scary.
Like you see the storms and floods in USA , and they are scary.
Gay marriage is a storm and when you see the results , that will be scarey.
Only those who scare not , go after very destructive activities , people like Hitler.

Corruption, fire, manipulation and floods HURT people... Gay marriage does not.
Equating people who support gay marriage to Hitler is not scary, it's ignorant.

Those who don't see the results are ignorant.

+ Hitler is not a scary person to every one. To some people he is a hero.

So , no one is offended by my comparison.

Well, I am neither afraid, and nor am I like Hitler.

I may walk the valley of death by standing up for my rights, but I fear not and I never will.

So did Hitler and his nation.

Look how Nazis stood up for Germany and how Americans stand up for democracy in Iraq.

Originally posted by mideast

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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Originally posted by mideast
Corruption is scarey , fire is scarey.
Mass corruption and manipulation is scary.
Like you see the storms and floods in USA , and they are scary.
Gay marriage is a storm and when you see the results , that will be scarey.
Only those who scare not , go after very destructive activities , people like Hitler.

Corruption, fire, manipulation and floods HURT people... Gay marriage does not.
Equating people who support gay marriage to Hitler is not scary, it's ignorant.

Those who don't see the results are ignorant.

+ Hitler is not a scary person to every one. To some people he is a hero.

So , no one is offended by my comparison.

+ ETA , my problem is not that people want to be gay in other countries.

The problem is that manipulated masses are the ones who invade other countries and destroy them behind empty words.

So , we don't have to argue on this matter anymore.

Being gay and invading other countries is about as related as pork and and a silver lantern. Blood lust is a very heterosexual thing.

That being said, I think you will find that there are plenty of people in the USA who strongly disagree with what has been done under the false banner of bringing freedom to other nations.

Despite your very obvious hatred for us, I do not hate you. You are a human being and deserve the same love and respect as anyone else. We are not all ignorant introspective individuals in the west you know.

reply to post by markosity1973


It is not blood lust.

It is a game for manipulating nations to invade other countries to bring democracy.

Like it is a game to make people that homosexuality is a right and every one should respect that.

It has been going on for years in western countries. They made many homosexual porno movies , they made many movies and TV shows to convince people homosexuality is right and accepting homosexuality = open mind free society.

Like how they convinced you to invade Iraq and Afghanistan , they are convincing you to accept homosexuality.

It is mass manipulation program and it is used for propaganda.

Like we heard from Obama " USA will attack any country who do not want our democracy"

Like we will hear from other US president " USA will attack any country who do not want our homosexuality"

And we will see masses move to kill for homosexuality , like they killed for democracy.

The matter is that mass manipulation has been around for years and hurts a lot to look after it , especially for those who have been manipulated for so long.

Despite your very obvious hatred for us, I do not hate you. You are a human being and deserve the same love and respect as anyone else. We are not all ignorant introspective individuals in the west you know.

Thanks , but remember that peace does not come from barrel of gun , but it comes from hearts.

I hope to see western people respect other nations and do not kill them for their problems.

To have your marriage legally recognized in the United States, you must apply for a license.

If marriage is simply about a religion, why are virtually all marriages in the States a licensed contract?