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World War III

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posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 06:33 AM
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WWIII precursor event:

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"Container Ship Carrying Weapons for Syrian Rebels Splits in Half/Sinks"




posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 06:38 AM
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Indian leaders are scared of China. They will not move too strongly to annoy China.

Japan does not have power projection capabilities. Japan in useless in an India-China war.

India may have more potential to help Japan than vice-versa.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 06:43 AM
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WWIII precursor : Snowden affair

Now I am treating Snowden as a WWIII related event.

The revelations are startling and will affect government policy in Asia.

We knew of spying functions built into Microsoft operating systems, but what has come out is far far more than what we thought.

This will give rise to extensive encryption used on public networks, while some networks like military comms will be totally disconnected from public networks.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 06:45 AM
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So does India. Both have only green water navy and also China.
The close proximity of Japan and China belies what you've just said, both don't need power projection on each other.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 08:24 PM
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The Japanese are unique people who do not have a history of forming deep alliances with any other race.

It will be very difficult for India to form a practical alliance with Japan.

Having a common enemy is not sufficient for two countries to come together.

However the cooperation between Japan and India is growing and will continue to grow. There are cases like Suzuki where India is now the biggest manufacturing base and market.

I am skeptical of Japan being a close military ally of India. It takes much more than a mere statement (or desire).

India can help Japan as India has surplus manpower. Japan has a shortage of young people. This is what I meant.

Russia is a "natural" ally of India for reasons not well understood. However this relationship is stymied due to problems in Pakistan and Afghanistan. If Pakistan and Afghanistan problems are resolved and trade takes its natural course, the overland routes between India and Russia will become active.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 11:53 PM
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Garg Prediction: Direct Rail route between Delhi-Beijing and Delhi-Moscow will become a reality by 2030.

The NWO has prevented connectivity between India/Russia and India/China for too long.

Pakistan is a baby of NWO, and so are kingdoms of Saudi, UAE, Qatar and Kuwait.

The NWO is already operating; and has operated for more than 100 years.

NWO is very good in duping people, and making them believe falsehoods.



posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 01:48 PM
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Well I am not sure what to say,our leader has all but completely deligitamized himself on the world forum.There is open talk of civil war the likes of which I haven't heard in my life before.
We are finding out all about the the crap they've done and now we are talking about WWIII with china.
What usually occurs when a country gets into such financial distress is indeed war,but the eyes of the world are watching now.
Interesting times.



posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 07:58 PM
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The world is just coming out of a financial crisis. President Obama has done quite well so far to steer the county away from war, like in Syria - and pull back forces in Iraq and get them back up to speed.

He has done well so far in this.



posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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ww3 is going to be a preemptive joint nuclear strike against USA.. If you have not noticed Nuclear powers have not fought against one another in a full scale conventional war like ever... Due to nuclear weapons...


ww3 according to all computer simulations will not last all that long considering about a 3rd of our nukes are on BMS.



You do not want to be alive after a nuclear war, if the blasts did not blind you or kill you, the fallout will kill you in a matter of days, will not see the sun for a long time if you hide in a bunker, and all of this, you take for granted as a luxury will be gone for a long time if not forever..

Absolutely nothing romantic about ww3.... Not sure if I can agree with China, and India, starting ww3..

I am about 85 percent sure ww3 will not start conventionally, if at all..


edit on 24-6-2013 by Bicent76 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 01:54 PM
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How badly would a nuclear war mess up the planet, given there's been over 2000 nuclear detonations since WW2? I realise some were underground and didn't involve nuking cities, but would the effects be as disastrous as they're often depicted?



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:42 PM
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Good points.

Also, I doubt it will start nuclear - it will just end there. I also doubt you would see full scale releases. They will probably be more tactical - against troop concentrations or important industries - maybe even city for city. Before that happens conventional force will be used, probably. Except if it does start in an India/Pakistan conflict. In that case it may indeed start directly with a tactical exchange - IMHO.

Joe



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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Nobody with any brains would use a nuke, because it would render too much of the planet's resources un-exploitable.

Wars are about resources, until those who have the resources to wage war have another planet to run away to, nobody's going to use nukes unless it's some misguided religious extremist group thinking some imaginary guy in the sky is going to swoop down and save us from ourselves.

The only easily exploited resource left is "The Human Resource".

It gives me the creeps wondering where they will go with that.

edit on 25-6-2013 by MyHappyDogShiner because: dumb, no proofread, inefficient and ineffective....



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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Wars are not necessarily about resources - civil wars are not, the crusades were not, even WWI was not (at least it did not start that way). They are about control - war is the ultimate expression of politics (Clauswitz theorizes).

You do seem to assume there will be a total release - I think, to your main point, they will be used much more surgically.

Joe



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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No the pentagon has,he is trying for Syria and the pentagon is stalling him.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 06:23 PM
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I've been really into post-apocalyptic games lately like Metro: Last Light and the Fallout series. I love reading about the background story of both those games, reading about how their worlds were destroyed in nuclear fire. In the Fallout: New Vegas add-on Honest Hearts, there is a series of logs you can collect from a Randall Clark (fallout.wikia.com...) he is a survivor of the Great War as it's known in the fallout world, and his logs detail the events of the bombing and long afterwards. It may be science fiction, but regardless I would highly recommend reading his terminal entries which can be found on the Fallout wiki link I posted.

Anyways, onto the relevant part of my post. Does anyone think that WW3 could end in devastation of most of the planet earth like in the Metro or Fallout series? Could we really be stupid enough to practically destroy our entire civilization and planet? If so, what events do you think would lead to such catastrophic destruction of our planet? What would be the final straw that makes us destroy ourselves in nuclear fire, and how would survivors live? Could we really live underground like in the Metro series? Could we take shelter in caves or other similar places to ride out the worst of the fallout? How would the various animal species react to the deadly radiation? Could they mutate into dangerous creatures like in the Metro or Fallout series, or is that really pushing reality to far?

What do you think post-apocalyptic civilization would be like? Would we be able to reverse engineer pre-war tech to get at least rudimentary technology quicker than if we had simply let evolution do the work?

This is all theoretical, of course.
edit on 25-6-2013 by Javik because: Clarification



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 08:42 PM
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Javik, the NWO is about total control of this planet. They consider every tool - technology, deception, murder, extortion, usury, theft - as legal in this pursuit.

They have achieved remarkable success in their endeavor. However things keep cropping up that has stopped them from their final goal so far.

The organized religion (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism) are a hindrance for them. They have fought wars with religions by peddling violence, pornography etc. through mass media to corrupt people and weaken their religious beliefs.

NWO likes atheists, this is how USSR was born as NWO communist (atheist) experiment.

NWO has taken control of USA since early 1900s. Americans have been chained to NWO for more than 100 years. The funny thing is very few Americans realize this, which I consider due to corruption of the minds of American people. Americans have been subjected to mind control techniques through every means - food, water, sights, speech, drugs.

WWII was NWO war. WWIII will be NWO war as well, a war to take control of entire earth. This war will not be started by Russia or China or India or Pakistan. This war will be started by the West (NWO).

I repeat - WWIII will be started by the West (NWO).



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 09:25 PM
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Firstly, I do not believe the NWO stuff. That said - how exactly did WWII become a NWO war? From the US, British or Russian perspective - we did NOT start it, Japan and Germany did.

Joe



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 04:10 AM
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The Germany was the anti-NWO. Germany was on its own empire building spree.

Japan story is different. It started its own empire building exercise which is basically disconnected from Nazis.

The Axis powers did not have the kind of unity that was present between USA and UK.

As regards NWO, this reference comes in speeches of American Presidents Bushes (both) and Clinton.
NWO strategy is to keep itself hidden from public view, until their goal of worldwide domination and a world government is achieved.

UN, European Union, and several other trade and political organizations are to pave the way for an eventual world government.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 04:37 AM
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So NWO (west) will start the WW3 and i presume this will be against Russia or China or both...my question is this, why would the NWO wage war against its own when you said Russia is also a creation of NWO? It's really illogical...


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Nevermind...this NWO thing just muddles the discussion here.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 04:44 AM
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WWIII Will not be about resources.

It will be about genocide to cut the global population down toward 200-500 million as ordered by the power mongers and their fallen angel bosses of the NWO.

It will be about erasing the 'old order' to enable overt establishment of the 'new order' [as old as Babylon] more clearly and demonstrably on the world stage with greatly more tyranny and ruthlessness . . . all stuff the blood thirsty fallen angel king of hell loves.



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