Getting angry at something Father is protecting you from?

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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by jiggerj
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I implore all, to not get lost in one sided thinking, but think of all angles.


You are the one with one-sided thinking, Jhill. And in all of your examples you prove one thing and one thing only; that your god is one intrusive, annoying SOB! Get a new one, please!


How can you cast the speck from your brother's eye when you have a mote in your own, friend? First remove the mote from your own eye, then you will see clearly to remove the speck from his.




posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:28 AM
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Begin by laughing at yourself.

The biggest fallacy I've seen repeated in humanity is the belief that it is impossible to understand God.

"Is it not written that 'Ye are gods?'"
If God is an intelligent creator, and you are an intelligent being, then try putting yourself in God's shoes. You'll find it's easier if you actually know who God is. And if you don't, you'll find it impossible.

The one thing people seem to fail to remember is that God's law is simple and universal. That is, DO AS YOU WILL. That one most important question we ask ourselves constantly. Not "Why am I here?" Not "How did I get here?" But "What do I do now?" You ask yourself that all day long. As humans, we find ourselves here on Earth in more ways than one. As children, we learn to identify ourselves. We see our faces, our eyes, our hands. We learn how to use them and how they are separate from the other things we can see. We find our human body. As we grow, we learn who we are as people. We learn what decisions we are apt to make, what we think is good, what we think is evil, what foods we like, etc. IOW, We find our souls. This is all personal. VERY personal.

When you accept the existence of God, you find that He has been with you every step of your life. Those hardships you've dealt with, the loss of a family member, the experience of rape, these are obstacles in your life that you learned to overcome, or you let crush you. Perhaps you had to let it crush you so you could learn to be stronger than that experience. We could pin all the blame on humans, sure. That drunk driver never had to have a drink in the first place. So you can blame him. But you fail to see that he lost his firstborn son and wife to an act of terrorism, causing him to lose self control and drown himself in alcohol. He gave away his awareness out of pain that was caused by a different person. So is it still the driver, or is it the terrorist? You can follow that line of thinking all the way back to the first humans. So was it the driver, or was it you yourself for being in that particular place at that exact time? The answer is within you. Nobody else can reach the answer for you. You have to decide. What you decide determines how you react to different experiences in the future. Do you blame yourself, the aggressor, the victim, or God? Many, many people blame God.

I've heard it said that God is responsible for more war and death than any other concept in history. This is false. Unless, of course, you believe in the God Money.

You don't think so? You are free to argue.
And that proves my point.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:32 AM
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I have noticed a trend on ATS. There are users that say Father in a similar manner as the OP. Can the OP tell us why there are 4-5 users on ATS that use this pattern in their speaking? It seems connected in some way. I enjoyed the post by the way. It was relevant to the last two weeks of my life.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by minkmouse
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How convenient is that?
Too bad father wasn't on his game today when I hit my thumb with that hammer...A little phone call would have done the trick


Father does things based on priority. More protection is given by rank and tasks. If you are needed here for a greater task, you will be given more protection. You can still continue life with a wounded vessel. In the future, you will be more careful with said hammer, everything is a learning process rather good or bad via perspective.


"If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail." Abraham Maslow

I agree with our statements above. There are unseen forces, powers and principalities at our disposal. Prayer is more powerful than we know.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:36 AM
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I am not aware of this. I am to call him Father and not use mans names for him.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by jiggerj
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I implore all, to not get lost in one sided thinking, but think of all angles.


You are the one with one-sided thinking, Jhill. And in all of your examples you prove one thing and one thing only; that your god is one intrusive, annoying SOB! Get a new one, please!


I would agree with the one sided thinking comment from Jhill. Compassion is empathy for the person who is lost in this world. Not only does the person with empathy think of their own salvation, they are considering the other with compassion as well. From the standpoint of the lost scoffer, they are thinking of their own reasoning only. Compassion is not part of the communication. If anything, pride is one sided. Humility is multi-dimensional awareness put into practice.

What is the intent (By design) of pride? What is the intention of humility?



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:17 AM
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Pride so we can know all that we've accomplished.

Humility to know what we haven't.

At least according to my instinct and understanding.

Pride so we can know how great we are.
Humility to know how small.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by jhill76
Father may just be protecting you from something down the line, because he loves you, not for you to struggle.

With all my serious health issues .. how exactly is he loving me and not wanting me to struggle.
I struggle with them every day of every week of every year.
God's love is rather uncomfortable ... and it certainly looks like he doesn't care a lot of the time.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Life sucks.

I agree. The only people who say 'life is good' are those who aren't chronically ill or aren't starving. LIFE SUCKS. There are times that there are breaks from the 'sucking' ... but for a good chunk of the planet ... life sucks.

One thing I can't stand .. Polyannas who go around telling suffering people that life is good or that someone loves them or that the suffering has a deeper meaning etc etc etc ... People who do that are sucky. Well meaning. But sucky.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by jhill76
Father may just be protecting you from something down the line, because he loves you, not for you to struggle.

With all my serious health issues .. how exactly is he loving me and not wanting me to struggle.
I struggle with them every day of every week of every year.
God's love is rather uncomfortable ... and it certainly looks like he doesn't care a lot of the time.


God's love may feel uncomfortable to you, but your struggles no doubt made your love very powerful and comforting to those you love. Couldn't this be God's purpose?



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:50 AM
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Not really sure how that makes sense. Why not make everyone happy including him/her? Unless you think someone's unhappiness brings their family happiness, which doesn't really make sense because one's unhappiness usually rubs off on their loved ones in some capacity.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:53 AM
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Agreed. My general poor health is NOT a source of happiness for anyone. Not for me. Not for my family who now has to take over a lot of the things I used to be able to do. Not for my husband who I don't get to see very often because I'm not well and in bed a lot. It's been a difficulty on family life .. on income ... on my spiritual well being .... and 3NL1GHT3ND1 is correct ... that wears on a person and on the family and the weariness wears off on others. Healthy people don't want to be around sick people all the time. They just don't ... and I don't blame them at all. It's sucky. (and I can't FAKE being happy 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, month after month, year after year after year .... )

edit on 5/27/2013 by FlyersFan because: spelling



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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Not really sure how that makes sense. Why not make everyone happy including him/her? Unless you think someone's unhappiness brings their family happiness, which doesn't really make sense because one's unhappiness usually rubs off on their loved ones in some capacity.


If the entire universe was filled with light and no darkness, how could we appreciate the light and not take it for granted? How would we even know what light was if we never experienced darkness? How could we know what happiness is without ever experiencing anything else? Is that true happiness? Or is that just another form of darkness?



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:55 AM
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I'm sorry to hear you're sick.


I wish you all the best and hope you get better soon.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:57 AM
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I agree with you, but that still doesn't make your previous post make sense.

Sorry.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I wish you all the best and hope you get better soon.

I'm incurable and my illness is 'systemic and progressive'. I'm stuck between life and death. I'm not fully engaged in life and I'm not nearing the sweet release of death. Sucky. But thanks for your good thoughts and wishes.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by GodIsRelative
How could we know what happiness is without ever experiencing anything else? Is that true happiness? Or is that just another form of darkness?

Dude .. If I were happy all the time ... I'd really appreciate it.
And I'm pretty sure I would be happy without experiencing the negative first.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 06:06 AM
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It's just a matter of interpreting all the clues.

If Father planned for us to understand everything and never have to work for anything, or have anything to question, how would we call ourselves intelligent?

I am sympathetic to those who are in pain. I hope you don't think I want anybody to be in pain.
I am only trying to show that there are reasons. Reasons some of us may never understand. But we should all try.
Sickness and physical disability are not the only forms of pain or darkness we may know. The greater the struggle, the greater the reward. Is that not true of most things here on Earth? How are heavenly works any different?

It is true that sometimes our afflictions affect those we love, but that doesn't make them any less important. That doesn't make the outcome any less rewarding.

We could chalk it all up to chance. But why would you want to? If you think you're just a random occurrence in a universe of literally limitless possibilities, how much more so is God?



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 06:08 AM
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Damn, now I'm sad.
I'm truly sorry and my heart goes out to you.

You shouldn't be afraid of death because as you said, it is a release and it will be bliss with no more pain.

Love to you my friend.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 06:12 AM
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A car in front of you is going slow, you are now angry and have engaged in road rage. But, Father has placed said person in front of you, because a mile down the road, if you would have been in that exact spot, you would have been struck by a drunk driver.


to be blunt , what utter twadle

this is taking " works in mysterious ways " to new levels of innanity

i have read that 5 times now - and can only conclude that this nonesense is somehow concocted to address the free will argument

ie - if you pass the car - you are exercising your alledged " free will " to defy " the father " and thus are to blame for being hit by the drunk

the refution to this is two fold :

1 - why doesnt " the father " directly stop the drunk driver ???????????? he is indirectly interfereing already - cut to the chase and target the actual problem - not creating innane obstacles to others that as you put it cause you to " engage in road rage " - there is an entire new argument stemming from this bit of silliness

so :

1b - "the father " causes you to " engage in road rage " to " save you from a drunk driver 1 mile away " ???????????????????? just WTF ?????? - that jumps the shark - is that really your belief or are you trolling ???

2 - while you are " stuck " behind the slow driver - what if some other idiot ploughs straight into your rear end at excessive speed [ that actually happened to me ]





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