Thousands of Muslims gather in London to condemn murder of soldier Lee Rigby

Originally posted by neformore
Do you not trust Norweigians because of the actions of Anders Brevik?

What about Irish people... you obviously don't trust them either?

What is worrying is the way in Northern Ireland a relatively small group of violent IRA extremists dominated the much larger Catholic community.

When the majority tolerate those who are intolerant we are simply encouraging their behavior. The longer we tolerate it then worse it will become.

Originally posted by MidnightTide
When the majority tolerate those who are intolerant we are simply encouraging their behavior. The longer we tolerate it then worse it will become.

There is no tolerance, there is fear though, and yes that is wrong, but that doesn't make them bad because they too are afraid. See you have something in common after all.

Originally posted by Ayana
Double post. I KNEW that was coming. Stupid mouse.

edit on 26/5/2013 by Ayana because: (no reason given)

Thank you Ayana, you made my day!!!

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by Mr Tranny

 

Atrocities are atrocities.

Do you not trust Norweigians because of the actions of Anders Brevik?

What about Irish people... you obviously don't trust them either?

You are trying to draw a nonsensical relation again.
A person and other followers of the religion/ideology he follows..
In comparison to a person and other people in the same country as that person.

A more correct, and logical comparison would be…….
A person and other followers of the religion/ideology he follows..
In comparison to a person, and other followers of the religion/ideology that he follows.

That would be like saying AB’s actions reflected on fellow followers of the anti immigration movement in Norway. Which many on this board, Including YOU, HAVE DONE!!!!!!!

It's very simple, every time a Muslim group praises some kind of atrocity committed, someone that represents a large portion of muslims needs to come out and his the airwaves to turn the perception.

When the nutty pastor in the south wanted to burn the koran, he had the oval office involved.

So does the oval office get involved when muslims cheer on death and destruction of regular people? And if it's not POTUS, is it a muslim leader? If they don't, people see it as a double standard.

Originally posted by theconspirator
You either hate all muslims, or fear all muslims. Either way, you need to grow up and stop catagorizing entire populations together with the acts of a few bad men.

Am I allowed to be wary of the 1 in 8 British Muslims who would like me killed for this thread?

• 1 in 8 British Muslims support demonstrators who call for the death of those who insult Islam

I am also a bit wary of the 2 out of 3 British Muslims who want me arrested and prosecuted.

• 68% believe that people who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted.

Can I be just a little apprehensive about the 28% of British Muslims who want the UK to be fundamentalist Islamic state?

• 28% hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state.

CBS
ICM

British Muslims. Nothing to see here. Move along.

reply to post by Mr Tranny


You're trying to obfuscate.

I'm not going to play that game.

The fact is that you cannot blame the actions of the few on the many.

Regardless of race, colour, religious belief or other creed.

Its a stupid thing to do. It shows a level of immaturity at least, and an inability to understand a persons place in the wider world that simply does not fit into today's global society.

Originally posted by Ayana

The men involved weren't brought up Muslim and so I don't class them as Muslim. They switched in order to put their hate to something. they obviously have some form of mental health issues.

Exactly right. They were brought up Christian. But, they ditched Jesus, and went off to find another path. Because they were not guided from early youth, in the faith of Islam, they really didn't know what Islam is about. That made them easy targets for militants, masquerading as Muslims, who have stolen and twisted the faith of Islam, and who are really fighting for Nationalist issues back in their own lands. Islam is the disguise they wear. The militants are fighting for power and control over their own lands, and have no real interest in Islam, the religion of peace. Their interest is politics, not God.

So, the lost souls got caught in the pit, searching for something new, and the demons possessed them, and stole their minds.There's dark magic at work there, and the poor ex-Christians have no clue, what they are doing, or have done.

Since the Crusades we have been fighting. Each side imagines the smallest insult and responds ten-fold.

We're fighting a war on terror that has become synonymous with Islam. Depending on the event or specific issue, either side could be at fault.

I applaud the members and staff that are trying to be reasonable, but this is a war on a multitude of fronts.

In the media
The classrooms
The battlefields
Residential streets in England
Buildings in New York

It's war that has been fought for centuries and sadly won't end anytime soon.

5,000 Muslims condemning the murder is what I would call a good start.

But it is only a start.

Just a few?

Two-thirds of young British Muslims agree that 'honor' violence is acceptable.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

95% of honor killings in the West are perpetrated by Muslim fathers and brothers or their proxies.
fullcomment.nationalpost.com...

Middle East Quarterly: 91 percent of honor killings are committed by Muslims worldwide.
www.canadafreepress.com...

BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor".
www.expressandstar.com...

MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
www.torontosun.com...
www.macdonaldlaurier.ca...

ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
www.telegraph.co.uk...

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
www.cbsnews.com...&date=2011-04-06
www.webcitation.org...

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
www.cbsnews.com...&date=2011-04-06
www.webcitation.org...

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by Mr Tranny

 

The fact is that you cannot blame the actions of the few on the many.

But you CAN blame the many if they actively support the actions of the few. Whether they are scared or not.

I

ts a stupid thing to do. It shows a level of immaturity at least, and an inability to understand a persons place in the wider world that simply does not fit into today's global society.

What Global society?, last I checked, we all still didn't get along. That's a pipe dream. I don't think even an alien invasion would change that.

Originally posted by SQUEALER

Because they were not guided from early youth, in the faith of Islam, they really didn't know what Islam is about.

Bin Laden was guided from early youth, in the faith of Islam.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Around five thousand Muslims gathered at Morden mosque yesterday to condemn the murder of soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich on Wednesday.

Its good that 5,000 Muslims have gathered to condemn the murder of soldier Lee Rigby

Didn't twice that number gather to protest against Google?

10,000 Muslims rally outside Google's London HQ over US-made anti-Islam film: report

edit on 26-5-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

When I was in Nicaragua, they had a name for folks like this. they called them "piricoacos", "yapping street dogs" They applied that name because street dogs often go along barking just to hear the echo inside their own heads, and it seemed fitting.

The loudest drum is the one most hollow.

It seems to just irritate the crap out of some people when their bluff is called, and then pointed out that it was called. they then have to bark overtime just to find a higher notch to place their bar on.

Hey - I'm just following DHS guidelines - "see something, say something".

Where's my citizenship medal now?

reply to post by MidnightTide


OK, I stopped checking after the 4th one. None of those links are current. All over a year old. We get it. Even though Muslim's are standing up righteously it doesn't appease you and the other guy. We on the other hand accept that Muslims are capable of compassion. Unlike some here.

Originally posted by nenothtu
When I was in Nicaragua, they had a name for folks like this. they called them "piricoacos", "yapping street dogs" They applied that name because street dogs often go along barking just to hear the echo inside their own heads, and it seemed fitting.

Some posters, when incapable of refuting an argument based upon empirical evidence, are forced to descend to personal attacks.

They do so because of the weakness of their own position.

Originally posted by nenothtu
It seems to just irritate the crap out of some people when their bluff is called, and then pointed out that it was called. they then have to bark overtime just to find a higher notch to place their bar on.

Hey - I'm just following DHS guidelines - "see something, say something".

Where's my citizenship medal now?

On second thoughts, what are you on about?

reply to post by neformore


To be honest, this is the first time I've heard of a large group coming out to condemn an Islamic killing. One, I commend these thousands for doing this, Two, I have to say ... It's about time. Three, and this is the pessimist in me, but I can't help recalling that the Koran says it's ok for a Muslim to lie, if it advances the cause. (paraphrased)

You ask, do I (we) come out and condemn every murder or atrocity? I will as soon as someone does it in my name.

To the OP.

From a Western cultural perspective, one problem with Islam is the treatment of women. Were any of the “thousands of Muslims” who gathered to condem the murder women, or were they uncounted?

REgards

Yea sure they ''condemn'' it...more like they are doing it to try and stop a race war

Originally posted by LvSLoLo
Yea sure they ''condemn'' it...more like they are doing it to try and stop a race war

That's a bad thing?