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Thousands of Muslims gather in London to condemn murder of soldier Lee Rigby

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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by xavi1000

Originally posted by Cayla19
reply to post by neformore
 


Has anyone actually said ALL muslims?


I think not , Nefermore is owned by the facts in this thread ... 125 muslim flags are irelevant , it's time to unflag this thread.


Why? You and the other Islamophobe have proved nothing to contrary.




posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by destination now

Originally posted by SuicideBankers

Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by SuicideBankers
 


I want whatever you're having


I don't know your gender, but I'm female and quite happy to let my hair down (in all senses of the phrase) so there's no chance they're going to be listening to me anytime soon..


I live in Colorado. I will leave it at that.


I think you sell yourself short. I dont know you but I can say you debate very well. The truth is the truth no matter who speaks it.


I'll take that as a compliment and whilst I may indulge myself in the fantasy that we can all live as one in peace and harmony, and I wish that our words could make it so, I'll doubtless be brought back down to earth with a thump when I walk out my front door and am confronted with a bunch of neds throwing beer cans around...see I don't just blame radical Muslims for the world's troubles..


You should because that was how it was intended. I just meant that it makes no difference if you are a woman. You can change a Muslims mind even if you are female. This isn't a back handed compliment.

Peace doesn't have to be fantasy. If we all believe we can achieve peace then it will become reality



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by xavi1000

Originally posted by Cayla19
reply to post by neformore
 


Has anyone actually said ALL muslims?


I think not , Nefermore is owned by the facts in this thread ... 125 muslim flags are irelevant , it's time to unflag this thread.


Why? You and the other Islamophobe have proved nothing to contrary.


Me islamophobe ?
I'm going out so i will let you with free speach and peace




posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Cayla19
reply to post by SuicideBankers
 


most but not all


Then there is hope.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by xavi1000
I think not , Nefermore is owned by the facts in this thread ... 125 muslim flags are irelevant , it's time to unflag this thread.


125 flags but where are those people in this thread?


It could be that people are "flagging" the thread to point out just how inane the OP premise it.


Or it's to show that not everyone is as easily programmed by the MSM like a few of you.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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I love your optimism


However, it's not just peace, but also equality and I think I'll be a long time dead before the Islamic religion would afford the likes of myself that.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by xavi1000

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by xavi1000

Originally posted by Cayla19
reply to post by neformore
 


Has anyone actually said ALL muslims?


I think not , Nefermore is owned by the facts in this thread ... 125 muslim flags are irelevant , it's time to unflag this thread.


Why? You and the other Islamophobe have proved nothing to contrary.


Me islamophobe ?
I'm going out so i will let you with free speach and peace


So you post a video by one of the biggest racist aholes on youtube. That guy is half past crazy and well on the way to insane.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:54 PM
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There's always hope
There are radicals everywhere but it all depends how far the people who are against this will go to stop these radicals from destroying this world.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 12:57 PM
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5000 out of 1 billion+

Oh yeah 'I was all wrong'.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:02 PM
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I have to roll for a while. I will leave you guys some quotes from Haile Selassie I. He was the last king of Ethiopia I believe and the second coming of Christ according to some Rastafarians. I just think he makes a whole lotta sense.

Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war and until there are no longer first-class and second-class citizens of any nation, until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes. And until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race, there is war. And until that day, the dream of lasting peace, world citizenship, rule of international morality, will remain but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, but never attained... now everywhere is war.”

The temple of the most high begins with the body which houses our life, the essence of our existence. Africans are in bondage today because they approach spirituality through religion provided by foreign invaders and conquerors. We must stop confusing religion and spirituality. Religion is a set of rules, regulations and rituals created by humans, which was suppose to help people grow spiritually. Due to human imperfection religion has become corrupt, political, divisive and a tool for power struggle. Spirituality is not theology or ideology. It is simply a way of life, pure and original as was given by the Most High of Creation. Spirituality is a network linking us to the Most High, the universe, and each other”

ONE LOVE!
-Bob Marly-

Peace!

edit on 27-5-2013 by SuicideBankers because: typo



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010
So you post a video by one of the biggest racist aholes on youtube. That guy is half past crazy and well on the way to insane.





posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:04 PM
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The overthrow of a democratically elected government in Iran over oil rights in 1953, followed by the propping up of the Shah of Iran?


Yeah some of us are aware of Operation boot mainly the Anglo Iranian Oil Company that would later change it's name to British Petroleum.

The Iranian coup was more about Britian than the US.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:07 PM
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Actually, we've learned that you really, really, REALLY aren't fond of muslims - and have pulled out a whole host of stats, tried to discredit me and even questioned the flagging of the thread to prove it.

But hey, thats ok. You think what you think.

I do find it odd that people who make sweeping generalisations about things take offence when someone makes one about them - but thats the world I guess.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:08 PM
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You do know that religion is a choice thus a person is not born as so it is not racist.

People keep that up gonna start calling everyone who 'bashes' Christians racist.

So what way do people want to have it?

Oh and given the fact that Islam is a marriage made in hell of politics, and religion as most religious theocracies are.

The murder in London was a political reprisal based on religious beliefs.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:09 PM
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OK
Let me see,Islam/Muslims are bad?
The religion is violent and evil?

Lets see here.
What does the bible have to say,I gotta think its's a peaceful,loving book.

Exodus 31:15
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.

Exodus 2:11-12
11 One day, after Moses had grown up, he went out to where his own people were and watched them at their hard labor. He saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people. 12 Looking this way and that and seeing no one, he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand.

Exodus 31:14
"'Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do any work on that day must be cut off from their people.

Exodus 34:20
A firstborn donkey may be bought back from the LORD by presenting a lamb or young goat in its place. But if you do not buy it back, you must break its neck. However, you must buy back every firstborn son. "No one may appear before me without an offering.

Exodus 35:2-3
2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of sabbath rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death. 3 Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”

Leviticus 20:10
"'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

Leviticus 24:16
16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

Genesis 38:24
About three months later Judah was told, "Your daughter-in-law Tamar is guilty of prostitution, and as a result she is now pregnant." Judah said, "Bring her out and have her burned to death!"

Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name.


Exodus 21:15-17
15 And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.
16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.
17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.



Exodus 21:24-25
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe



Exodus 21:28-29
28 “If a bull gores a man or woman to death, the bull is to be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible. 29 If, however, the bull has had the habit of goring and the owner has been warned but has not kept it penned up and it kills a man or woman, the bull is to be stoned and its owner also is to be put to death.

Exodus 22:19
"Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death.

I could go on,but you get the point.
Chritianity also preaches unnecessary violence.

But it dosent mean the followers of it are going to go out and act on "god's word".
Im an Athiest,im not defending any religion,as I find all of them to be bronze age non-sense.

But,that being said,people have a right to practice what they believe in.
And not be judged,as a religon,by the actions of a few crazies.

And people of one faith shouldnt point fingers at another religon.
Considering all religons have churches in glass houses,and are flawed.




edit on 27-5-2013 by Black_Fox because: SPELLing



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by SuicideBankers

Originally posted by Cayla19
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I don't think that just because we don't agree with your point of view we are being dumb. People have reasons to not like certain people for different reasons. I'm not calling you dumb for your views and opinions, I have my personal reasons for not being that tolerant towards certain Muslims who decided to get personal. And each one of us has a reason, that doesn't make us dumb.


Okay so is it your disdain for certain people or is it a disdain of Islam. There is a difference. You seem to be in my opinion blurring the lines here a bit. People are people and Islam is a religion. I dislike certain people because they are A-holes. I don't hate on a religion because some of its followers are A-holes.


The line that is blurred is that Islam is JUST a religion. It's that, but also a way of life for most Muslims. Their politics are based along Islamic doctrine. Their laws are based in Islam. Their entire ideology is based within this 'religion'.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by neformore

Actually, we've learned that you really, really, REALLY aren't fond of muslims - and have pulled out a whole host of stats, tried to discredit me and even questioned the flagging of the thread to prove it.


That isn't fair. In this post here I pointed out that while Egyptians, Jordanians and Pakistanis are probably not going to be a lot of fun at a party, the Turks and Lebanese are probably going to be pretty easy going.

I even explained why.


Originally posted by neformore
I do find it odd that people who make sweeping generalisations about things take offence when someone makes one about them - but thats the world I guess.


But you also feel here that many on this thread are dumb, so it is fair to say that you yourself are somewhat fond of sweeping generalizations.


edit on 27-5-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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Actually Muslims aren't very fond of the west 2000 years of warfare even today It is mind boggling that people think the world is so 'evolved' today.

Expect 2000 years more of 'not very fond of' the point being neither side likes each other very much.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Cayla19
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I think he was giving an example of different religions not them being immigrants.


Does that change anything - really?

If he's choosing to single out one group, make them an example and compare them to other groups - all the while speaking on behalf of whichever group has decided they're in a position to judge and compare - it all amounts to the same thing

It's a ridiculous argument



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by Black_Fox
OK
Let me see,Islam/Muslims are bad?
The religion is violent and evil?

Lets see here.
What does the bible have to say,I gotta think its's a peaceful,loving book.

Exodus 31:15
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.


When you can direct me to a video on Youtube of a Christian who has beheaded a Muslim quoting the Bible, then get back to me.



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