Thousands of Muslims gather in London to condemn murder of soldier Lee Rigby

reply to post by Gazmeister


Says which internet hate site that deliberately takes things out of context?

(Thanks for the heads up there btw. seems I missed something out. its in there now - your quote is out of date)

reply to post by MarioOnTheFly


More importantly, why does that matter?

You don't like muslims, don't go to a muslim country. Its not rocket science.

I highlighted the issue because certain folk of your ilk keep saying that continual muslim immigration is a problem in the UK. Turns out that its not. See?

They are pretending and lying !
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them
www.thereligionofpeace.com...

reply to post by xavi1000


You do realise that site is set up with the express mission of disseminating anti-islamic propaganda, don't you?

Its not exactly an impartial source. Maybe you should widen your horizons a little, instead of just believing what you read on the internet.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I think you've made some very poignant points and I agree with you. I am afraid TPTB will want to keep stirring the pot and not "let a good crisis go to waste" so to speak.

What profit is there in peace?

Governments need to keep us at each others throats (See 1984) to distract us from the fiscal abuses and mismanagement in our respective countries.

ALL countries do this.

Islamic countries? Internal struggles, rights abuses. . . . let's wage war on the infidels!

Western countries? Economic malaise, high unemployment . . . . . let's wage war on the jihadists!

I just get so damned tired of war.

Can anyone answer my questions from earlier?

From the article you linked to.

Around five thousand Muslims gathered at Morden mosque on Friday to condemn the murder of 25-year-old soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London.

This wasn't a special organised tribute then, this was normal Friday prayers?

Why does the article try to make it look like a special event in memory of the murder if it wasn't?

Why does this thread try to make it look like it was a commemorative act if it was the normal Friday prayer session not a specific gathering?

The gathering of British Muslims from across the country took place at Western Europe's largest Mosque.

As it's this, does anyone know the normal attendance for Friday prayers? I'm assuming it was this one but I can't find out figures 'The Baitul Futuh Mosque (House of Victories)'.

What's the difference in numbers between this week and last week?

Originally posted by woogleuk
Anyone with any sense knows not to blame the majority, however it doesn't help when the BBC interview people like Anjem Choudary, who openly support these actions, straight after the incident occurs.

Petrol > fire.

Nice to see the Muslim community trying to show people they are not to blame though.

Problem is that if the BBC didn't give exposure to the loons in the Muslim community we all know very well what would happen, they'd be accused by right wing sorts (Daily Mail, etc) for glossing over the bad elements of it.

BBC can't win. They give exposure and they're faulted for it, they don't give exposure and they're faulted for being in on some sort of liberal coverup.

Originally posted by rigel4
reply to post by neformore

 

Just watched this Interview with the British "Home secretary", I think the point about Muslims
groups that whip up hatred and extremism , but say they do not support violence is long overdue.

Terresa May is goingto ban such groups!
About time too, next we can legaly deport them for breaking terror laws.. Hooray

www.independent.co.uk... nce-8632652.html

Teresa May also wants to bring more 'snooping' laws in, so they can monitor our emails and social networking activity.

Now, I'm all for them keeping close eyes on the enemy but I really hope there will be something written in this new Law that will stop them snooping on everyone.

Originally posted by intrepid
I think it's safe to say that the good that these Muslims did has now been totally shadowed by posts that are totally irrelevant to that. Well done. Can we get back to the topic? Or is that not enough hate for one day?

Okay so that makes ATS a bit boring...someone starts a thread and everyone has got to agree with the OP...and here's me thinking it was a discussion board.

And I don't see how people posting that they don't believe that the apology means too much is overshadowing what the 5000 Muslims did...

I'm glad that they have come out in unity to condemn what has happened because that is the only way that any of this can move forward because if they remain within in their own communities not speaking out against the radicals then it's understandable why non-muslims will believe that they support them.

reply to post by khimbar


explains why this isn't more widely reported. Its a normal Friday prayer gathering

an especially held event would be news

Originally posted by khimbar
This wasn't a special organised tribute then, this was normal Friday prayers?

Why does the article try to make it look like a special event in memory of the murder if it wasn't?

Why does this thread try to make it look like it was a commemorative act if it was the normal Friday prayer session not a specific gathering?

The irony is that the OP posted it without even realizing that the Ahmadiyya community are considered heretics by mainstream Islam and suffer persecution at their hands!

More smoke and mirrors.

Persecution of Ahmadis

The Persecution of Ahmadis is the religious persecution of Ahmadi Muslims as a consequence of professing their faith.

They have been subject to various forms of persecution and discrimination since the movement's inception in 1889.

Ahmadis are considered non-Muslims by the mainstream Muslims

Persecution of Ahmadis

reply to post by ollncasino


lol thats terrible you couldn't make this stuff up.

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by xavi1000

 

You do realise that site is set up with the express mission of disseminating anti-islamic propaganda, don't you?

Its not exactly an impartial source. Maybe you should widen your horizons a little, instead of just believing what you read on the internet.

You see , you are on internet , how do i know you are not a muslim ? This issue only need more openness and honesty , you need to wake up , radical muslim extremists will kill you for a bloody cartoon , game over ... ordinary muslim people are not to blame , they are brainwashed with Islam which is concept of life , not just a religion.

Now, I'm all for them keeping close eyes on the enemy but I really hope there will be something written in this new Law that will stop them snooping on everyone.

The ability to snoop on everyone at any time in a legal and court admissible fashion is the point of the legislation.

Its a carte blanch wiretap on everyone. I feel your hope is a forlorn one.

They've tried it twice already and they'll just keep on trying till it gets through on a wave of 'something must be done' sentiment.

reply to post by xavi1000


ROFLMAO. You have descended into asininity there.

You'll just have to take my word for it, and that of the people on the board who know me personally. But please, let me assure you, I'm one of the most non-religious people you are ever going to come across.

Still, as you picked it out - why is one religion acceptable, and another brainwashing?

reply to post by ollncasino


Hmm. so, unless it meets your definition of islamic, its not islamic?

Ok. We get it. You really, really really dislike muslims to the point where you try and define the faith you find so abhorrent in order to further your view of it.

Thanks for letting us know.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by SQUEALER

Because they were not guided from early youth, in the faith of Islam, they really didn't know what Islam is about.

Bin Laden was guided from early youth, in the faith of Islam.

This thread isn't about Bin laden. And if you are an American then you should know Laden worked for the CIA and after getting canned by them he reacted just like the postal workers who got fired and went on shooting sprees.

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by xavi1000

 

Still, as you picked it out - why is one religion acceptable, and another brainwashing?

Christinaity - separation of church and state = very acceptable . Islam - is the way of life , no separation of church and state , Islam have hands in everything -- state laws, military , marriage, justice, police ...

And to add , i think christianity is responsible for recourse of humanity like no religion before. We need it 1000 years to separate church from state and all dark middle age to learn that science is THE thing.

reply to post by neformore

You don't like muslims, don't go to a muslim country. Its not rocket science. I highlighted the issue because certain folk of your ilk keep saying that continual muslim immigration is a problem in the UK. Turns out that its not. See?

How is it not? by what argument ? by fact that there are more Christian immigrants in the EU than Muslim ones ?

This is supposition is not based on islam hate...I don't hate....but if you think that constant Muslim immigration in the UK is not the problem...you are mistaken.

It's not just a UK problem and Christian-Muslims problem...forceful intercultural integration is starting to be a problem...and it's starting because the minorities have been granted more and more rights....to the point now, where majority is no longer a majority...except perhaps in numbers.